[gentoo-user] Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[gentoo-user] Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Harry Putnam]

Followin a well overdue emerge world -u I have no network on reboot.

The pieces seem to be there, although I'm not sure I remember what all
goes into it.

/etc/conf.d/net has the eht0 address and gateway address but its not
getting set on bootup.

I can ifconfig and route it into place of course but wondering why it
isn't just happening like before the update.

I went thru the new conf files with etc-update and seemingly was
carefull to get them right or merged etc.

Another very disturbing phenomena is that a mail spool directory I've
used for years in ~/spool is getting deleted by something.  This is
not tolerable of course since all mail resides there at least until it
is slurped by my emacs/gnus reader.

I did notice some rsnaphot errors on first reboot that indicated a
needed parameter (`config_version') was missing from my conf files.
Must be someting new in rsnapshot since those confs worked fine
prior to update.  I went ahead and added the parameter:
  config_version    1.2  to each conf and recieved no more errors.

What steps do I need to track down the network not getting setup and
the mysterious deletions?

Can some one just list the various files that contain the needed
network settings.  Maybe I've inadvertantly overwritten something.

Any ideas how to track donw what is deleting ~/spool?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Roy Wright]

Harry Putnam wrote:

>Followin a well overdue emerge world -u I have no network on reboot.
>
>The pieces seem to be there, although I'm not sure I remember what all
>goes into it.
>
>/etc/conf.d/net has the eht0 address and gateway address but its not
>getting set on bootup.
>
>I can ifconfig and route it into place of course but wondering why it
>isn't just happening like before the update.
>
>I went thru the new conf files with etc-update and seemingly was
>carefull to get them right or merged etc.
>
>Another very disturbing phenomena is that a mail spool directory I've
>used for years in ~/spool is getting deleted by something.  This is
>not tolerable of course since all mail resides there at least until it
>is slurped by my emacs/gnus reader.
>
>I did notice some rsnaphot errors on first reboot that indicated a
>needed parameter (`config_version') was missing from my conf files.
>Must be someting new in rsnapshot since those confs worked fine
>prior to update.  I went ahead and added the parameter:
>  config_version    1.2  to each conf and recieved no more errors.
>
>What steps do I need to track down the network not getting setup and
>the mysterious deletions?
>
>Can some one just list the various files that contain the needed
>network settings.  Maybe I've inadvertantly overwritten something.
>
>Any ideas how to track donw what is deleting ~/spool?
>
>
>  
>
For the network problem:

hostname and domainname migrated from /etc to /etc/conf.d

check /etc/conf.d/net for something like:
iface_eth0="dhcp"

check dmesg

check /var/log

HTH,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:26:30 -0500
Roy Wright wrote:

> Harry Putnam wrote:
> 
> >Followin a well overdue emerge world -u I have no network on reboot.
> >
> >The pieces seem to be there, although I'm not sure I remember what all
> >goes into it.
> >
> >/etc/conf.d/net has the eht0 address and gateway address but its not
> >getting set on bootup.
> >
> >I can ifconfig and route it into place of course but wondering why it
> >isn't just happening like before the update.
> >
> >I went thru the new conf files with etc-update and seemingly was
> >carefull to get them right or merged etc.
> >
> >Another very disturbing phenomena is that a mail spool directory I've
> >used for years in ~/spool is getting deleted by something.  This is
> >not tolerable of course since all mail resides there at least until it
> >is slurped by my emacs/gnus reader.
> >
> >I did notice some rsnaphot errors on first reboot that indicated a
> >needed parameter (`config_version') was missing from my conf files.
> >Must be someting new in rsnapshot since those confs worked fine
> >prior to update.  I went ahead and added the parameter:
> >  config_version    1.2  to each conf and recieved no more errors.
> >
> >What steps do I need to track down the network not getting setup and
> >the mysterious deletions?
> >
> >Can some one just list the various files that contain the needed
> >network settings.  Maybe I've inadvertantly overwritten something.
> >
> >Any ideas how to track donw what is deleting ~/spool?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> For the network problem:

first thing to know - have you updated your config files with
etc-update or dispatch-conf?

> 
> hostname and domainname migrated from /etc to /etc/conf.d
> 
> check /etc/conf.d/net for something like:
> iface_eth0="dhcp"
> 
> check dmesg
> 
> check /var/log
> 
> HTH,
> Roy
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[gentoo-user] Re: Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Harry Putnam]

Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> writes:

>> For the network problem:
>
> first thing to know - have you updated your config files with
> etc-update or dispatch-conf?

I used dispatch-conf, because of the archiving behaviour but I see it
doesn't really archive all of etc now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:42:51 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

> > first thing to know - have you updated your config files with
> > etc-update or dispatch-conf?
> 
> I used dispatch-conf, because of the archiving behaviour but I see it
> doesn't really archive all of etc now.

Have you enabled rcs in the config? This makes it backup the changes, so
you can roll back.
 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Harry Putnam]

Roy, looks like my first impulse about an update... IE, that it would
be a pita is coming true... hehe

Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> writes:

> For the network problem:
>
> hostname and domainname migrated from /etc to /etc/conf.d

Has /etc/domainname just moved to /etc/conf.d or is it a new filename
with different notation?

I see my old domainname file in etc and something called:
/etc/conf.d/dnsdomainname which appears to be unchanged by the
update and has a Mar 22 date on it.

It says simply:
local.net0 (which is correct)

This is the only uncommented line in pre update /etc/domainname:

  # When setting up resolv.conf, what should take precedence?
  # If you wish to always override DHCP/whatever, set this to 1.
  OVERRIDE=1

So just move it bodily to /etc/conf.d?

Regarding dmesg.   Network devices are being recognized normally.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Harry Putnam]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:42:51 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> > first thing to know - have you updated your config files with
>> > etc-update or dispatch-conf?
>> 
>> I used dispatch-conf, because of the archiving behaviour but I see it
>> doesn't really archive all of etc now.
>
> Have you enabled rcs in the config? This makes it backup the changes, so
> you can roll back.

No, I just used it sort of blindly and in many cases choose to `e'
edit the new file, where upon I'd read the old file into the new and
take what looked like it needed to be taken into the new file.  Then
save exit and chose `u' (use new).

So I guess the result should have been a very manual merging.  There
were some 128 new conf files.  The vast majority I just accepted as is
since I'd not done any conf changes on most of them.

I was under the conception that the archiving mechanism did a backup
of all of etc but apparently that is not the case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Jason Stubbs]

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On Wednesday 31 August 2005 18:42, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> writes:
> >> For the network problem:
> >
> > first thing to know - have you updated your config files with
> > etc-update or dispatch-conf?
>
> I used dispatch-conf, because of the archiving behaviour but I see it
> doesn't really archive all of etc now.

You've hit a bug in dispatch-conf. /etc/init.d/net.eth0 was previously a 
file. Now it's a symlink to net.lo. dispatch-conf fails to handle that 
change correctly. Hence, delete /etc/init.d/net.eth0 and recreate it as a 
symlink and all should be fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:53:21 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

> > Have you enabled rcs in the config? This makes it backup the changes,
> > so you can roll back.
> 
> No, I just used it sort of blindly...

Not the best way to operate Gentoo :(

> I was under the conception that the archiving mechanism did a backup
> of all of etc but apparently that is not the case.

It archives what you change. So if you copied your settings into the new
config file and then let dispatch-conf replace the old one with it, the
old settings will be archived.
 

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RE: [gentoo-user] Following a well overdue world -u I have no network

[Daevid Vincent]

Not sure if this helps, but did you make sure that your symlinks are
correct. They should essentially all link to net.lo

init.d # ll net.*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     6 Aug 29 18:07 net.eth0 -> net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     8 Nov 27  2004 net.eth1 -> net.eth0
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 24323 Aug 29 18:07 net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     8 Nov 27  2004 net.wlan0 -> net.eth0 

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> Following a well overdue emerge world -u I have no network on reboot.

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