From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBIOX-0001r3-3F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:25:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id m05NO4Q0012577; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:24:04 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m05NIxfv006327 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:19:00 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA381656EB for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:18:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.696 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.097, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XAmIOSZuBhDf for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7048865725 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JBIHw-0002Dq-2D for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:18:48 +0000 Received: from adsl-75-3-178-22.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net ([75.3.178.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:18:48 +0000 Received: from reader by adsl-75-3-178-22.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:18:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: reader@newsguy.com Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: A pared down kernel config Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:18:36 -0600 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87fxxb275f.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <87r6gwxnpu.fsf@newsguy.com> <200801051832.25820.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <87odc0w2ui.fsf@newsguy.com> <200801052145.19438.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-75-3-178-22.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nU77YBZ08cnaCLOjG8+jZoFceTQ= Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: fb3136c8-2d84-4c53-9ab3-7f9c8fa5980f X-Archives-Hash: 81f6c75ae206c809970cc36e747f9e0c Alan McKinnon writes: > On Saturday 05 January 2008, reader@newsguy.com wrote: >> > to de-junk a default config - even if you don't know what you do, >> > is in realm of half an hour to an hour. If you read everything. >> >> Do you have a de-junked .config that I can diff against the >> default.. it would be a way to see what kinds of things get dropped. > > Drivers for stuff you don't need and you will likely never use. Like ham > radio stuff, v4linux (first version), I20, on a notebook all the > enterprise-grade connect-a-machine-to-storage-stuff like iSCSI and > Infiniband, all of ISA and MCA and the pre-pci bus drivers, old disk > types like mfm and on modern boards usually even IDE as well. Thanks... but you hit on something there that can throw you. scsi stuff. I've never used a scsi hard drive in my life but not that long ago linux users needed scsi support for many of the cdrom drives. I doubt that is still the case but it might be. But my point is that even when you think you know something isn't needed it might be in some context you haven't thought of. People in this thread speak of 2 and 3 boots and editing in between in the same message where `5 minutes' is mentioned. That doesn't wash. You're way past that time frame. But still not in the guiness book realm I guess... hehe. > Removing all these unused drivers is the single largest improvement in > reducing kernel size. The general rule with drivers is that if you are > familiar with YOUR hardware and you've never heard of something in the > config then you don't have it and don't need it :-) Just to know more on this... Is there really any reason to worry about kernel size... I mean in most cases with a standard desktop install? I noticed a massive difference in drivers and modules installed between a machine running kde and X and a hand roled kernel I configured on nox system with just basic install. In fact that is what led to my post here. But the actual kernel wasn't all that different in size. [...] > Like I said in an earlier mail, Do you mean on this thread? If so I must have some trouble with my newsreader threading or something... I don't see it here. > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .it's not an easy process. It's only easy > if you know most of it already - like Volker. I'd guess he has long > since forgotten what it took to learn everything he knows, so of > course "It's obvious!"... Here here. ... And thanks for the basic advice and comments. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list