From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835521381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5788AE09B4; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 594F3E099F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap-wireless.localdomain (ool-182de1a5.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.225.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6V1VIxv012334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap-wireless.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32A32A041E; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:31:17 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update References: <87d2q050ht.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:31:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Canek =?utf-8?Q?Pel=C3=A1ez_Vald=C3=A9s=22's?= message of "Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:14:29 -0500") Message-ID: <87fvuva522.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d6acb312-6893-403a-8bb7-92b5ce35e6ab X-Archives-Hash: 5b49b2608c4965a1a4002f74d2dc18d4 First and foremost, thank you Canek. On Tue, Jul 30 2013, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM, wrote: > >> I am a gnome-3 user, who wants to continue with gnome-3. >> [ I described my current state--beginning of wiki ] > > Sounds reasonable. > >> [ I asked about /etc/mtab and /proc/self/mounts > > If you switch to systemd, you will need to make /etc/mtab a symlink to > /proc/self/mounts. Done. >> After that comes the big one >> >> emerge systemd >> USE=3D"... systemd ..." >> emerge --newuse ... [ a change from previous msg ] >> /etc/init.d/udev restart >> >> Can the system be rebooted at this point (I realize init will still not >> use systemd) or must the entire conversion (including changing init) be >> completed before the system is bootable? I am hoping it is the former. > > If you reboot [now], I don't believe there is any chance your system > will boot up correctly. I see. > /etc/init.d/udev is installed by sys-fs/udev; sys-apps/systemd doesn't > provide anything similar. I don't understand. *After* installing systemd (and setting the USE and executing the emerge --newuse ...), the wiki tells you to=20 /etc/init.d/udev restart Emerging systemd unmerges udev so how can I do the restart? > I recommend installing everything necessary (and uninstalling > everything that is not) before trying the reboot. How far do I have to get in the wiki? I am hoping to do smaller chunks so that if I have to back out a step (using a bootable CD) to restore "bootability" to the system, it won't take too long. In particular do I have to switch init to /usr/lib/systemd/systemd before I can boot. I know you have had systemd installed for a long time. Did you always have the init=3D line or were you for a while running openrc with systemd installed? > Also, I would do the whole shebang in a one step, removing all the > masked packages you did. You can try to boot to multi-user.target > instead of graphical.target, if you want to test that systemd works > correctly independently of GNOME. I am not so worried about gnome coming up. If the system boots and I can get the 6 text terminals, I can survive for quite a while with emacs and gnus. Again thanks for the help. allan