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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user]  Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ?
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:40:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ejcdcos7.fsf@newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20080119124532.GA29753@nibiru.local

Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> writes:

> Part of the problmem might be too many quick+dirty hacks, another
> part's the philosophy of taking evrything as it comes from the 
> upstream. It's not trivial to get out of this ;-o

First off, your comments seem to be some of the more sensible here.
Not that others are senseless just not much actual `what to do'
content has come through.

I'd hazard a guess that you may have hit a bigger problem than your
comment indicates.  I'm pretty sure there would be great pressure to
use `quick and dirty hacks' to get stuff done when devs are nearly
always overworked.

> One little step out could be the OSS-QM project (http://oss-qm.metux.de/)
> It collects fixes for a lot packages and makes them accessible in 100% 
> automated ways. So in a way it can be seen as an kind of overlay against 
> the upstream. Most of the patches are things that upstream's tend to forget 
> but importand for fully automated builds (eg. proper relocation, clean 
> feature switching, fixing buildfiles, pkg-config, etc) - they do NOT harm 
> the core functionality. So exactly what the vast majority of distro's 
> patches do, but in generic (distro agnostic) ways.

The theory sounds very sensible.
After looking at that page and some of the links briefly it wasn't
clear to me where this is being used.  I see a very short list of pkgs
being worked on.. and guessing it is because of being short handed
there. 

But what wasn't clear is how work comes in and where it goes when it
goes out.

Are some distros offering these overhauled pkgs or what?
(Please excuse me if I'm missing obvious things on the pages)

PS-The `help' link under `navigation' brings up what appears to be
something it is not intended to, and may even be a hack on those pages
or something.  (The content that comes up may even be sort of off the
wall.)

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-20  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-12  9:11 [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ? alain.didierjean
2008-01-12 10:31 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 12:08   ` Jil Larner
2008-01-12 12:55     ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:34       ` Dale
2008-01-12 17:07         ` Richard Marzan
2008-01-12 17:22           ` Renat Golubchyk
2008-01-12 17:49             ` Hal Martin
2008-01-12 18:13             ` Richard Marzan
2008-01-12 21:17               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-13 14:07                 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 14:23                   ` Naga Toro
2008-01-13 14:33                     ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 15:06                       ` Naga Toro
2008-01-13 16:31                         ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 17:37                           ` Naga Toro
2008-01-14  5:42                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14 11:43                               ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 11:19                             ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 16:45                       ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-13 22:39                         ` Dale
2008-01-14  6:54                           ` [gentoo-user] " reader
2008-01-14  7:28                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  7:41                             ` Dale
2008-01-14  7:51                               ` Naga
2008-01-14  8:10                                 ` Dale
2008-01-14 16:18                               ` James
2008-01-14 11:16                         ` [gentoo-user] " Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-19 15:37                         ` [gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-19 19:55                           ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-16  4:58                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? »Q«
2008-01-13 14:48                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 20:03           ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:16           ` [gentoo-user] " Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-13  9:10           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 17:11         ` Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-19 12:45         ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-20  0:40           ` reader [this message]
2008-01-23 17:35             ` [gentoo-user] " Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-23 18:48               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-12 22:06       ` James
2008-01-13  0:03         ` Dale
2008-01-13  4:08           ` James
2008-01-13  7:56             ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-01-13  9:31               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  2:52                 ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-13  9:58               ` Uwe Thiem
2008-01-13  9:29         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 19:19   ` [gentoo-user] " fire-eyes
2008-01-13  9:37     ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 10:05       ` Alan E. Davis
2008-01-14  8:47         ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 10:06       ` [gentoo-user] " Uwe Thiem
2008-01-13 10:18         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13  1:12   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-01-13 10:41     ` Mick
2008-01-13 14:51       ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  1:19         ` James
2008-01-14  5:35           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  6:04             ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 12:31               ` Mick
2008-01-14 10:26     ` Thufir
2008-01-14 16:51       ` James
2008-01-14 18:11         ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 18:30           ` Jil Larner
2008-01-14 19:47             ` James
2008-01-14 20:40               ` reader
2008-01-14 21:13                 ` Jil Larner
2008-01-14 21:03               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15  5:22                 ` reader
2008-01-15  5:42                   ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15  7:26                     ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-15  7:57                     ` Mick
2008-01-14 21:51               ` Jil Larner
2008-01-15  0:31               ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 19:15           ` James
2008-01-14 20:43             ` [gentoo-user] Re: License issues [was:Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 21:33               ` James
2008-01-14 22:16                 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-15 11:39                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-14 21:16             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15  1:36               ` James
2008-01-15 11:34                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-15 11:31             ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-17  6:37         ` Thufir
2008-01-19 14:55     ` [gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-14 10:30 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? Thufir

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