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[196.209.115.66]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e5-v6sm29520048wru.88.2018.11.06.01.15.52 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Nov 2018 01:15:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_47091946.632047903894" Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:15:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87b6da1d-1791-4ebf-b7ac-ce993cb6cfae@getmailbird.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE? From: "Davyd McColl" To: "" In-Reply-To: <045b6fcb-c42d-1c09-0fad-e0591f206f42@gmail.com> References: <045b6fcb-c42d-1c09-0fad-e0591f206f42@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.20.0 X-Mailbird-ID: 87b6da1d-1791-4ebf-b7ac-ce993cb6cfae@getmailbird.com X-Archives-Salt: 7b68ab09-a418-48ba-87c0-5a4adfdbb43a X-Archives-Hash: fd6d249be1bb040445e38365d2965e99 ------=_NextPart_47091946.632047903894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2018-11-06 10:54:38, Samuraiii wrote: On 5.11.2018 17:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/11/2018 06:43, Alan Grimes wrote: How did they make it so that 40% of ordinary zip files I try to open with konqueror fail CRC (but work perfectly from the command line).... It used to have nice large icon mode with previews, and nice small-icons in normal mode... Broken too for many months now. =3D\ Akregator crashes all the time if I simply try to close a tab... It went about three years without saving anything to disk when it's supposed to buffer my RSS feeds. Now it's just crashtastic in the extreme... Plasma in itself is not too bad. I use Plasma, but not Konqueror or Akregat= or. Find the applications that work best for you. Just because you use Plas= ma doesn't mean you need to use the rest of KDE's applications ;-) My browser is Firefox, my email client is Thunderbird, my image viewer is e= og (Eye of GNOME), etc, etc. I think my only KDE application is my file manager, which is Dolphin. I use plasma since it got stable (on KDEish stuff since gnome 3)... It is getting better with each emerge. I also dropped Konqueror as file manager, first because it was ~ for a time= and the features was not that much needed as before. And Firefox and Thunderbird is also my choice. I usually tend to try to find QT5 based app* before other alternative but e= ventually I land by best working one (kdiff compared to Meld, and so on). S * even if it means using ~version I've been watching this thread -- didn't want to bring up plasma since ther= e's been a lot of people who don't like it. When plasma first hit, it was a= ball of crud -- slow, crashy, inconsistent, memory hog. However, it's been= quite a while since then and, though I can't say that it's super-light on = memory, it's not bad memory-wise, if you have the ram to spare (currently u= sing around 160mb on my machine, 1 panel, a small handful of widgets). I al= so haven't really experienced the 'crashy" part in a while, though at its p= eak, I wrote a watchdog script for it. It looks good to me and there are th= emes which are flatter (my preference) or with more relief, as expressed as= a preference elsewhere in this thread. Dolphin is (imo) quite good (does d= ual-pane too) and I stick to FF for web browsing. I'd heartily recommend qt= erminal over konsole, simply because it's lighter and faster (think aterm w= ith pretty fonts). QDirStat is a real winner. If you're not on a ram-constrained machine (think < 2gig), then I'd recomme= nd plasma. I can't speak to "native" dev environments as I tend towards the= JetBrains spectrum (WebStorm, Rider, etc) and VSCode. The one blocker to note is that plasma expects a hardware-accelerated=C2=A0= desktop. I found it to be incredibly unstable with the Nouveau drivers and = super-slow with drivers like fb. I don't think you need super-special hardw= are -- even a reasonably modern Intel GPU might suffice -- but it's somethi= ng to consider. -d ------=_NextPart_47091946.632047903894 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On 2018-11-06 10:54:38, = Samuraiii <samurai.no.dojo@gmail.com> wrote:

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=0A Akregat= or crashes all the time if I simply try to close a tab...=0A It went= =0A
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=0A Plasma in itself is not too bad. I use Plasm= a, but not Konqueror=0A or Akregator. Find the applications that work = best for you. Just=0A because you use Plasma doesn't mean you need to = use the rest of=0A KDE's applications ;-)=0A
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=0A= My browser is Firefox, my email client is Thunderbird, my image=0A = viewer is eog (Eye of GNOME), etc, etc.=0A
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I use plasma since it got stable (on KDEis= h=0A stuff since gnome 3)...

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It is getting better with each emerge.

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= I also dropped Konqueror as file manager= ,=0A first because it was ~ for a time and the features was not that= =0A much needed as before.

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And Firefox and Thunderbird is also my choice.

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I usually tend to try to find QT5 = based app*=0A before other alternative but eventually I land by best= working=0A one (kdiff compared to Meld, and so on).

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= I've been watching this thread --= didn't want to bring up plasma since there's been a lot of people who don'= t like it. When plasma first hit, it was a ball of crud -- slow, crashy, in= consistent, memory hog. However, it's been quite a while since then and, th= ough I can't say that it's super-light on memory, it's not bad memory-wise,= if you have the ram to spare (currently using around 160mb on my machine, = 1 panel, a small handful of widgets). I also haven't really experienced the= 'crashy" part in a while, though at its peak, I wrote a watchdog script fo= r it. It looks good to me and there are themes which are flatter (my prefer= ence) or with more relief, as expressed as a preference elsewhere in this t= hread. Dolphin is (imo) quite good (does dual-pane too) and I stick to FF f= or web browsing. I'd heartily recommend qterminal over konsole, simply beca= use it's lighter and faster (think aterm with pretty fonts). QDirStat is a = real winner.

If you're not on a ram-co= nstrained machine (think < 2gig), then I'd recommend plasma. I can't spe= ak to "native" dev environments as I tend towards the JetBrains spectrum (W= ebStorm, Rider, etc) and VSCode.
The one blocker to note is that plasma expects a hardware-accelerated desktop. I found it to= be incredibly unstable with the Nouveau drivers and super-slow with driver= s like fb. I don't think you need super-special hardware -- even a reasonab= ly modern Intel GPU might suffice -- but it's something to consider.=

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