From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BE691382C5 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 23:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B617E095F; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 23:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wedjat.horus-it.com (wedjat.horus-it.com [95.217.42.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2E40E093A for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 23:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wedjat.horus-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC31EA600393 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2020 01:36:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: at horus-it.com Received: from wedjat (wedjat.horus-it.com [IPv6:2a01:4f9:2a:2e8d::c0de]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by wedjat.horus-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5467A6001D6 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2020 01:36:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ml.seichter.de; s=k1; t=1592696162; bh=aQ0rvS6nEQxiR8xqLeNCF10kMlwwTiC+Sguv+6m30L4=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: Content-Type; b=ZvBYs2ZgGtw/WOgoF+SGTI9MJJ4xU3wO+4EKjxW3dD44f1ziSB5WvLFi4DMB96uHq y5pVGIXCQSSTlfOlmrYC3abTvfA4puy4SqsHaBqZHhX1dq1+nztdIc7MgMT0tnm+/z MJRlfcONKY9E6fH3+Gg6yvIWjvSQcLHiwf7I+r2Fa2yxDACJ2GSz6U3nLphBPxG666 6EKgDDH3fk00n/S8h07Rr21qRguhSb2RK1Xkk61q7bNdnUmAYGVJnIpHagggjEfe9Q Nd2Ja5TtIx3vD6ipSOuw5C9lID6bONtDBZ4DNElmrTgCSuQbOOg795TSV3MzPNDEm8 OhLNjDQkC0UFw== From: Ralph Seichter To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently? In-Reply-To: <3cf8f8d8-2442-dde2-a703-f6ab4b76beb2@gmail.com> References: <20200620040430.GA31108@waltdnes.org> <45f40170-7b4d-19d6-58a5-bdacc7333d65@gmail.com> <87d05tzhuj.fsf@wedjat.horus-it.com> <3cf8f8d8-2442-dde2-a703-f6ab4b76beb2@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 01:36:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87a70xs42l.fsf@wedjat.horus-it.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: b1ab7a41-9351-4413-b7b6-b635ad53949b X-Archives-Hash: 16231692ea2f42882ead0b589a506cd4 * Daniel Frey: > You just pointed out the ambiguity. I did no such thing, and there is no ambiguity. There is only the failure to specify a package's identifier ("atom"). > Emerging a package solely by its name worked 99.9% of the time before > this change. Perhaps for the packages you used; I have obviously not verified that. Even if it was the case, it was not guaranteed to work that way. Package atoms are, and have been, of the form CATEGORY/NAME, not just NAME. Emerge also expects atoms, not names (as do package.mask, package.use, etc.). > Now new users get the fun of "Gee, which one is the one I actually > want?" MythTV is a fairly clear one to figure out, but other packages > aren't. "New users" can rely on Gentoo utilities like "eix", "emerge --search" or "equery". There's also https://packages.gentoo.org . Thus, I see no problem. -Ralph