[gentoo-user] update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[gentoo-user] update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[reader]

I'd like to update world ofter a sync this morning but taking a look
at:  `emerge -v -Dup world'

Shows several kde-3.5 and several kde-3.4.3 (I'm currently running
3.4.1).  There has been discussion here about slots but I didn't
notice anyone asking about or telling about how to avoid this
unecessary double whammy.

Also wondering if my /etc/portage.keywords has some bearing on this so
it is also included below emerge output:

emerge -v -uDp worls output below but only kde stuff.
 (wrapped for mail)

[ebuild U ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3 [3.4.1-r2] +alsa +arts
-artswrappersuid -debug -esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mp3 -nas
+vorbis +xinerama 922 kB

[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 [3.4.1-r1] +alsa +arts +cups -debug
-doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell +ssl +tiff
+xinerama -zeroconf 16,482 kB

  [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1 [3.4.1-r1] +arts +cups -debug
  -hal -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse
  -openexr +opengl +pam +samba +ssl +xinerama 21,908 kB
  
  [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 [3.4.1-r1] +arts -debug
  -kdeenablefinal -rdesktop -slp +ssl -wifi +xinerama +xmms 7,192 kB
  
  [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-3.5.0 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug
  -esd -jack -kdeenablefinal +mp3 -nas +vorbis +xinerama 927 kB
  
  [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.0 -acl +alsa +arts +cups -debug -doc
  -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell +ssl +tiff +xinerama
  -zeroconf 15,019 kB
  
  [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1 +arts +cups -debug -hal
  -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse
  -openexr +opengl +pam +samba +ssl +xinerama -zeroconf 22,688 kB

Cat /etc/portage/package.keywords:
  
  app-editors/bvi ~x86
  app-editors/vim ~x86
  app-editors/emacs-cvs ~x86
  dev-perl/gimp-perl ~x86
  media-video/cinelerra-cvs ~x86
  dev-db/mysql ~x86
  app-backup/bacula ~x86
  app-shells/ksh ~x86
  app-portage/gentoolkit ~x86
  media-sound/audacity ~x86
  mail-filter/spamassassin ~x86
  kde-base/kdebase ~x86
  kde-base/kdelibs ~x86
  kde-base/arts ~x86
  kde-base/kdegraphics   x86
  kde-base/kde-env  x86
  kde-base/kdeartwork  x86
  kde-base/kdeutils  x86
  kde-base/kdenetwork  x86


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Re: [gentoo-user] update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi,


> Shows several kde-3.5 and several kde-3.4.3 (I'm currently running
> 3.4.1).  There has been discussion here about slots but I didn't
> notice anyone asking about or telling about how to avoid this
> unecessary double whammy.

uhm. I just emerged KDE 3.4.3 and thanks to your post I just noticed 
that there still seem to exist some KDE 3.1 and 3.3 packages (at least 
I see /usr/kde/3.1 and 3.3 which both contain files).

What is the proper way to delete them?

As we are at it: I'm used to switch to another virtual console and doing 
a startx -- :1 as a different user to start a second KDE session for 
testing purposes. Unfortunately this still starts KDE 3.3 instead of 
3.4.

I opened startx in vi but to be honest I'm not a master in reading 
complex shell scripts.


Thanks & best regards


    ce


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Re: [gentoo-user] update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:50:04 +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote:

> > Shows several kde-3.5 and several kde-3.4.3 (I'm currently running
> > 3.4.1).  There has been discussion here about slots but I didn't
> > notice anyone asking about or telling about how to avoid this
> > unecessary double whammy.

This has been covered several times in those threads. After merging 3.5,
and ensuring it works, you can prune older versions.

> uhm. I just emerged KDE 3.4.3 and thanks to your post I just noticed 
> that there still seem to exist some KDE 3.1 and 3.3 packages (at least 
> I see /usr/kde/3.1 and 3.3 which both contain files).

Also covered in those threads. If any files are modified after
installation, portage will not remove them. As KDE keeps config files in
/usr/kde/version (more accurately, in $KDEDIR), those few files will
not be removed. Check the directories with du, they probably only contain
a few KB.


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[gentoo-user] Re: update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[reader]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:

> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:50:04 +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote:
>
>> > Shows several kde-3.5 and several kde-3.4.3 (I'm currently running
>> > 3.4.1).  There has been discussion here about slots but I didn't
>> > notice anyone asking about or telling about how to avoid this
>> > unecessary double whammy.
>
> This has been covered several times in those threads. After merging 3.5,
> and ensuring it works, you can prune older versions.

Yes, I saw that coverage at least once myself.  I tried to ask a
slightly different question.  Its one thing to prune older versions
but another to install two  newer versions on the same emerge.  Only
to prune one after wards.

I will be installing both kde-kde/base-3.4.3 and kde-kde/base-3.5
during the same emerge.  Both are terribly slow compiling creatures.
So I'll have twice the time chewed up.

I was asking if I can head that off somehow.  I'll still have 3.4.1 to
prune along the lines covered in the threads you mention, as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:48:30 -0600, reader@newsguy.com wrote:


> > This has been covered several times in those threads. After merging
> > 3.5, and ensuring it works, you can prune older versions.
> 
> Yes, I saw that coverage at least once myself.  I tried to ask a
> slightly different question.  Its one thing to prune older versions
> but another to install two  newer versions on the same emerge.  Only
> to prune one after wards.
> 
> I will be installing both kde-kde/base-3.4.3 and kde-kde/base-3.5
> during the same emerge.  Both are terribly slow compiling creatures.
> So I'll have twice the time chewed up.

You don't have to install 3.4.3. the easiest way to block it would be to
mask all 3.4.3 versions with

qpkg -g kde-base -I -nc | sed 's/$/-3.4.3\*/' >>/etc/portage/package.mask


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[gentoo-user] Re: update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[reader]

Christoph Eckert <ce@christeck.de> writes:

> As we are at it: I'm used to switch to another virtual console and doing 
> a startx -- :1 as a different user to start a second KDE session for 
> testing purposes. Unfortunately this still starts KDE 3.3 instead of 
> 3.4.
>
> I opened startx in vi but to be honest I'm not a master in reading 
> complex shell scripts.

Wrong script to edit..
Make sure the test user has a file named .xinitrc in home directory
that has something like this in it:

cat /home/otherU/.xinitrc

## start .xinitrc

exec /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde

## end .xinitrc

Or whatever version you need to run.  You may need to find the exact
location of the `startkde' script in each version directory structure.
I doubt it is any different for each version but may as well make
sure:

  find /usr/kde -naem 'startkde'

will get you that information.  Then insert the absolute path to
startkde in whatever version you want to test.

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[gentoo-user] Re: update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[reader]

reader@newsguy.com writes:

Typo alert

>   find /usr/kde -naem 'startkde'
                   ^^^^
                  -name

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update world but just kde-2.5 not other versions

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi,


> cat /home/otherU/.xinitrc
>
> ## start .xinitrc
>
> exec /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde
>
> ## end .xinitrc

this file didn't exist, so I created it and it exactly did what I 
needed!


So thanks a bunch & best regards


    ce

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