From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B153D1381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F18F0E09FC; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDF0DE09B9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap-wireless.localdomain (ool-182de1a5.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.225.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6VESxfY012821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap-wireless.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A9D5A041E; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update References: <87d2q050ht.fsf@nyu.edu> <87fvuva522.fsf@nyu.edu> <8738qvjb0y.fsf@einstein.gmurray.org.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:28:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8738qvjb0y.fsf@einstein.gmurray.org.uk> (Graham Murray's message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:09:49 +0100") Message-ID: <878v0mu7kk.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 68b2859f-cf5f-4772-ba3c-36f61b589bd3 X-Archives-Hash: 15767fb53cc5ddc840c5ebaf0479648c On Wed, Jul 31 2013, Graham Murray wrote: > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s writes: > >> The wiki is wrong. The script /etc/init.d/udev is part of sys-fs/udev, >> which you need to uninstall before installing systemd. Perhaps it's >> CONFIG_PROTECT'd, but anyway sys-fs/udev and sys-apps/systemd install >> the udev binary in different directories, so the script is basically >> useless after the switch. > > It is pulled in by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts which is a dependency of > systemd[openrc]. So the Wiki is correct. But the wiki doesn't specify emerging system with the openrc flag. Should I suggest that the wiki be modified. To be sure I understand. At this point I would have already 1. merged systemd (perhaps with USE=3D"openrc ..." 2. set USE=3D"systemd ..." 3. updated with emerge --newuse --deep --verbose--ask @world * The wiki doesn't say --update; is that correct? I would *not* have 1. added init=3D/usr/lib/systemd/systemd to the kernel line in grub 2. rebooted. A related question. Am I correct in believing that once I do the emerge ... @world above I can *not* reboot until I have added the init=3D... phrase to the kernel line in grub (and thus committed to systemd not OpenRC) Thanks to all allan