From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAB013871D for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 02:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0B4EE09CD; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 02:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B95A4E0869 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 02:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-182df3df.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.243.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA12Bx13011057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59D04A0146; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:11:59 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience? References: <5267CB83.3000306@gentoo.org> <526C8B62.9040905@iinet.net.au> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:11:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mike Gilbert's message of "Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:53:56 -0400") Message-ID: <8761scg9ao.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: a20a9ddf-964e-4967-a5d2-8c4acba8d1ad X-Archives-Hash: 91bc1f88f070fb7aca28641312dda9d7 On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote: > Making things "just work" is complex when trying to juggle 6 or more > supported versions/implementations of python. Indeed. > We have tried to explain the magic make.conf lines in the Python user guide. > > https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python/python-r1/user-guide.xml > > We also try to make sure that most users never have to touch > PYTHON_TARGETS, etc; the default values provided by your profile are > set up to allow *stable* python2.7 and python3.2 to work properly. > ~arch users are expected to read the docs. ^_^ I am a ~amd64 user and I just read the user-guide. :-) I do not see any action items for my system; but do see a large number of reinstalls proposed by emerge I do not change any python variables in make.conf so emerge --info shows PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2" a recursive grep -i for python in /etc/portage yields only ./package.use/imaging-pillow:5:virtual/python-imaging -python_targets_python3_2 So I basically have the default except for the imaging/pillow business. I note that update world wants to rebuild a bunch of packages (the entire output is below). Some are qt-related others involve PYTHON_TARGETS. Does this mean that I can let the 44 packages / 38 reinstalls update occur and expect a running system to result? It is unusual, but I realize not unprecedented, to have so many reinstalls and I would like to confirm that this is expected. thanks, allan