From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04BA1387B1 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64DD8E0A07; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57680E09F5 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-182df3df.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.243.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA1LuFqZ000361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 646C0A014C; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience? References: <5267CB83.3000306@gentoo.org> <526C8B62.9040905@iinet.net.au> <8761scg9ao.fsf@nyu.edu> <87bo249r32.fsf@nyu.edu> <5273B423.9030705@gmail.com> <8738ng86vv.fsf@nyu.edu> <52740C5B.20802@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:56:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <52740C5B.20802@gmail.com> (Alan McKinnon's message of "Fri, 01 Nov 2013 22:17:31 +0200") Message-ID: <8761sb6b28.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: 91c456a5-43f3-4380-abc5-cba3ccffe24f X-Archives-Hash: 27cdb03eb29003d68e9f2d3237e847d0 On Fri, Nov 01 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 01/11/2013 17:43, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 01 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> On 01/11/2013 15:41, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: >>>> On Thu, Oct 31 2013, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote: > I think we can agree that something must have changed on your system in > the last few days, we just have to find it. > > Did you run any portage commands at all that cause changes since > Wednesday? "emerge @preserved-rebuild" and depclean are good candidates, > I often forget about those myself. /var/log/portage/elog shows that the last entry was for tar at 30 nov just after midnight. That was the tail end of an update world that included chromium, which ended just before tar. So about 9:30pm on tuesday I started an update world that ended about 3 hours later. I see no activity after that. The emerges after that (all --ask) were aborted when I saw all the reinstalls and then I sent the email to the group. > > How about any file at all in /etc/portage that changes since > wednesday? None newlap gottlieb # ls -l /tmp/ts; find /etc/portage -newer /tmp/ts -ls -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 1 00:00 /tmp/ts 1190838 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 7 10:12 /etc/portage/package.mask 1188156 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2550 Oct 7 10:13 /etc/portage/package.mask/gnome-3.8 1190759 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 8 16:15 /etc/portage/postsync.d 1190586 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68 Oct 8 16:14 /etc/portage/postsync.d/q-reinitialize 1190761 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 8 16:15 /etc/portage/bin 1190467 4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 190 Oct 8 16:14 /etc/portage/bin/post_sync > Or /var/lib/portage/world*? newlap gottlieb # ls -l /var/lib/portage/world* -rw-r--r-- 1 root portage 1048 Oct 15 19:27 /var/lib/portage/world -rw-r--r-- 1 root portage 1098 Sep 9 17:21 /var/lib/portage/world~ -rw-r--r-- 1 root portage 0 Oct 15 19:27 /var/lib/portage/world_sets I do appreciate your efforts and this hunting was instructive for me, but I can't see you spending any more time on it. I must have done something wrong (beyond not including the output of the update world with 38 reinstalls). The status now is that update world only wants to update poppler, util-linux, icu, and python-exec. I have not re- synced. I imagine it is quite safe to do this update (perhaps the python-exec will then trigger more later). I will first update a less important machine that also includes python-exec and if nothing terrible occurs will update the main machine. I do feel bad for time others have spent on what was clearly some unknown user error on my part. thanks again, allan