[gentoo-user] new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[gentoo-user] new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

After installing piles of X related pkgs including all the lxde pkgs:
  [I] lxde-base/lxde-common
  [I] lxde-base/lxde-icon-theme
  [I] lxde-base/lxde-meta

When pressing the all important `run' item in the lxde main menu (at
left of bottom panel), it does nothing more than flash the bottom panel.

It does not offer any dialog at all.

Although I've used lxde for 2 yrs or so.. and installed it a number of
times on gentoo and other distros, I've never had this problem before.

I'm guessing something is missing in the install... but have no idea
what it might be.

Any ideas?

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[James]

Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> writes:


> After installing piles of X related pkgs including all the lxde pkgs:

> Any ideas?

lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]

lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]


[1] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/

[2] http://lxqt.org/


You may want to read the entire bug there on the remaining
issues with lxqt-8. From what I gather there are problems
upgradeing an existing lxde setup; but installing lxqt 8.0 or
1.0 as a fresh install is working for most. ymmv.

hth,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[James]

James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:




> You may want to read the entire bug there on the remaining
> issues with lxqt-8. From what I gather there are problems
> upgradeing an existing lxde setup; but installing lxqt 8.0 or
> 1.0 as a fresh install is working for most. ymmv.

Oops, 
Forgot the BGO ref:
Bug 525410

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525410


hth,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Michael Vetter]

> lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
> 
> lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/
> [2] http://lxqt.org/

LXDE is still in development, LXQt is just a new project by some people
who also developed LXDE. [3]

> When pressing the all important `run' item in the lxde main menu (at
left of bottom panel), it does nothing more than flash the bottom panel.

I am not a LXDE user so I am not quite sure what the "run" item is. In
case it's the main menu you might try right clicking on the menu and go
set a .menu file. At least that is what I had to do in LXQt.

Good luck.
Michael

[3] http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1310

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[James]

Michael Vetter <michael.vetter <at> uni-konstanz.de> writes:


> > lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
> LXDE is still in development, LXQt is just a new project by some people
> who also developed LXDE. [3]

Yes, the tenor has changed over the months to keep the base of users in tact.   

But, if you read the 'tea leaves' this desktop lineage is on the move,
and devs are few and very limited to support several trunks.


> I am not a LXDE user so I am not quite sure what the "run" item is. In
> case it's the main menu you might try right clicking on the menu and go
> set a .menu file. At least that is what I had to do in LXQt.

What your not continuing with LXDE?  Dude, lxde is dead; there just is no
scheduled funeral announce until lxqt is more feature rich, *imho*.  ymmv.


> Good luck.
> Michael
> [3] http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1310

I read this. I see no commitment to lxde long term. He is newly installing,
so lxde is probably a bad choice, if he intends to use it for a few years.
ymmv. Futhermore is Weyland in his sights?  Dunno, but that seems to
be the target, with qt5 resource utilization. I bet many codes that are
centric to qt4 will not keep up, and thus be dropped, eventually.


hth,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
>
> lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]

Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question.

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[James]

Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> writes:


> James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:
> > lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
> > lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]
> Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to 
> the question.


OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which
I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother
fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt.  Good luck with lxde.


James

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> writes:
>
>
>> James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>> > lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
>> > lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]
>> Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to 
>> the question.

>
> OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which
> I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother
> fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt.  Good luck with lxde.

Not sure I follow your reasoning there...

I'm posting here because I have lxde working well enough for my
purposes on 6 other hosts... none of them are gentoo.

Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu
item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem
to imply.

You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo.
So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on main menu?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Tom H]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>>
>> OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which
>> I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother
>> fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good luck with lxde.
>
> Not sure I follow your reasoning there...
>
> I'm posting here because I have lxde working well enough for my
> purposes on 6 other hosts... none of them are gentoo.

LXDE and Razor-QT were merged to create LXQT.

LXDE'll carry on for as long as there are developers willing to keep
it going; and as long as GTK+ 2 is still alive.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Raffaele BELARDI]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu
> item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem
> to imply.
> 
> You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo.
> So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on main menu?
> 

Same here, I did not notice before because I never use it. To be more
precise, when I select 'Run' the panel disappears for ~1s then reappears
but no 'Run' window.

$ equery l lxde*
 * Searching for lxde* ...
[IP-] [  ] lxde-base/lxde-common-0.5.5-r3:0
[IP-] [  ] lxde-base/lxde-icon-theme-0.5.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4:0

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> writes:
>
>
>> James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>> > lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
>> > lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]
>> Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to 
>> the question.
>
>
> OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which
> I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother
> fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt.  Good luck with lxde.

For your information:  Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane
group from Jonathan Thibault <jonathan@navigue.com>.

PS: I installed and tried out lxqt.  I was not impressed.  It appears
only about half ready for production.

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

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Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> For your information:  Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane
> group from Jonathan Thibault <jonathan@navigue.com>.

Whoops forgot to attach Jonathan's message:


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The version of lxpanel included in gentoo actually segfaults when using
'run'.  You should see it crash and respawn.

This is fixed under the new version of lxpanel but gentoo isn't pushing
it yet.  There's extensive fixes in lxterminal 0.2.0 which is also not
included in gentoo.

I've included a couple ebuilds for convenience though they might not
work right now since sourceforge in emergency maintenance mode.

Jonathan

On 16/12/14 02:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Setup:
>   Very new install gentoo linux
>     lxde version 0.5.5
>
> This is  very new install of gentoo, however I have installed lxde on
> quite a few different hosts over time, and never hit this particular
> problem.  I have no idea how to debug it.
>
> After the install was complete I startrf X and lxde with
> startx.
>
> Once up, it shows the nice lxde desktop.  However, one of the things I use
> often is the `run' item in the main lxde menu. (The one on the left
> with the nice aero-dynamic looking Icon)
>
> So, clicking the `run' item normally produces a small dialog where one
> can run command line type commands.
>
> In the current case, all that happens is the bottom panel (taskbar)
> flashes but nothing else happens.  No dialog appears.
>
> Any clues?
>
>
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MAJOR_VER="$(get_version_component_range 1-2)"

DESCRIPTION="Lightweight X11 desktop panel for LXDE"
HOMEPAGE="http://lxde.org/"
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This will not be an issue with first time installations."

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	# Get rid of the .la files.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Dale]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>>>> lxde is deprecated, imho. [1]
>>>> lxqt is the future of that lineage [2]
>>> Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to 
>>> the question.
>>
>> OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which
>> I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother
>> fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt.  Good luck with lxde.
> For your information:  Attached is message from the lxde devel gmane
> group from Jonathan Thibault <jonathan@navigue.com>.
>
> PS: I installed and tried out lxqt.  I was not impressed.  It appears
> only about half ready for production.
>
>
>
>


What was supposed to be attached again?  ;-) 

Dale

:-) :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

Raffaele BELARDI <raffaele.belardi@st.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Its only on gentoo that I ran into this problem with the `run' menu
>> item, so I know for certain it is not a general breakage as you seem
>> to imply.
>> 
>> You mentioned that you are using lxde... I'm assuming, on gentoo.
>> So do you see the same problem with the `run' item on main menu?
>> 
>
> Same here, I did not notice before because I never use it. To be more
> precise, when I select 'Run' the panel disappears for ~1s then reappears
> but no 'Run' window.
>
> $ equery l lxde*
>  * Searching for lxde* ...
> [IP-] [  ] lxde-base/lxde-common-0.5.5-r3:0
> [IP-] [  ] lxde-base/lxde-icon-theme-0.5.0-r1:0
> [IP-] [  ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4:0

Thanks for the helpful input... please see my message furhter in
thread with an attached post from an lxde developer that explains
a bit about what we are seeing.

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Harry Putnam]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> writes:

> What was supposed to be attached again?  ;-) 
>
> Dale

hehe... after noticing my `senior moment, I did repost to include the
attachement ... I don't see it on the group, perhaps no attachments
are allowed...

Here is it is inline:

-------       -------       ---=---       -------       ------- 
NOTE: [-ed HP The ebuild referred to can be gotten on the gmane group
that appears in Jonathan's headers below, if anyone is interested ]
-------       -------       ---=---       -------       ------- 

From: Jonathan Thibault <jonathan@navigue.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel
Subject: Re: main menu `run' item produces no dialog
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:36:05 -0500

[...] snipped piles of headers

The version of lxpanel included in gentoo actually segfaults when using
'run'.  You should see it crash and respawn.

This is fixed under the new version of lxpanel but gentoo isn't pushing
it yet.  There's extensive fixes in lxterminal 0.2.0 which is also not
included in gentoo.

I've included a couple ebuilds for convenience though they might not
work right now since sourceforge in emergency maintenance mode.


Jonathan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

[Dale]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> What was supposed to be attached again?  ;-) 
>>
>> Dale
> hehe... after noticing my `senior moment, I did repost to include the
> attachement ... I don't see it on the group, perhaps no attachments
> are allowed...
>
> Here is it is inline:
>
> -------       -------       ---=---       -------       ------- 
> NOTE: [-ed HP The ebuild referred to can be gotten on the gmane group
> that appears in Jonathan's headers below, if anyone is interested ]
> -------       -------       ---=---       -------       ------- 
>
> From: Jonathan Thibault <jonathan@navigue.com>
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel
> Subject: Re: main menu `run' item produces no dialog
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:36:05 -0500
>
> [...] snipped piles of headers
>
> The version of lxpanel included in gentoo actually segfaults when using
> 'run'.  You should see it crash and respawn.
>
> This is fixed under the new version of lxpanel but gentoo isn't pushing
> it yet.  There's extensive fixes in lxterminal 0.2.0 which is also not
> included in gentoo.
>
> I've included a couple ebuilds for convenience though they might not
> work right now since sourceforge in emergency maintenance mode.
>
>
> Jonathan
>

It made it to the list and folks attach stuff a lot so it is allowed. 
Anyway, we were likely typing at about the same time.  I just wanted to
make sure you knew it wasn't attached. 

Senior moment?  I'm 47 here and do this sort of thing quite often.  I
hope I'm not *to* senior.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)