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From: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 15:54:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86jzui250x.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76dffd3b-ebbd-f8a1-5d5e-bfa3e0c5bdac@youngman.org.uk>

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Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk> writes:

> On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
>> Wols Lists<antlists@youngman.org.uk>  writes:
>> 
>>> On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
>>>> User of Claws with a local maildir here.  One mail per file always
>>>> felt safer to me.  If you do want to keep using maildir,
>>>> net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box,
>>>> and I've found this combination to be reliable.
>>> Just a tip which bit me when I first installed dovecot ...
>>>
>>> The master config file actually chain-loads a local config file, make sure you
>>> use it. I edited the master file directly, so of course the first update
>>> overwrote and trashed it ...
>
>> That should not happen.  Where's the master config file?  Is it under a
>> directory masked by CONFIG_PROTECT?
>
> And then the dovecot maintainers update things, update the config file, and it
> breaks for all users because the config version no longer matches the program
> version ...

I don't recall Dovecot configs being version sensitive.

> The master config file is in the obvious place -
> /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf. Just like postfix breaks exactly the same way -
> /etc/postfix/main.cf.

Then that should not have been overwritten.

> Imho dovecot has got this (almost) exactly right. Just like systemd. You have
> your master file that is updated by the distro, and you have your local file
> that is updated by the sys admin.
> 
> dovecot.conf points to a file local.conf, which does not error if it doesn't
> exist, but over-rides dovecot.conf if it does. The proper way to do it!

I agree, but this is still suspicious.  CONFIG_PROTECT should've
prevented that, and offered dispatch-conf instead.

> Unlike postfix - where I can't find a place to split my local config away from
> the default config - so every time postfix is updated I have to make sure it
> doesn't try to update main.cf !!!

Again, it shouldn't be able to do that.  Please check CONFIG_PROTECT
using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT

It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults.

Have a lovely day.
-- 
Arsen Arsenović

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-29 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-29  0:29 [gentoo-user] Email clients Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29  0:38 ` Jack
2023-07-29  2:37 ` Bryan Gardiner
2023-07-29  8:52   ` Wols Lists
2023-07-29 10:13     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-29 11:20       ` Wols Lists
2023-07-29 13:54         ` Arsen Arsenović [this message]
2023-07-29 14:21           ` Wols Lists
2023-07-29 14:50             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-29 16:27               ` Wols Lists
2023-08-02  7:16             ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva
2023-07-29  5:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Philip Webb
2023-07-30 12:07   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2023-07-30 12:25     ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29  6:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-29 11:01   ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29 11:23     ` Wols Lists
2023-07-30 19:02       ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-30 22:53         ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-30 23:11           ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31  7:34             ` Wols Lists
2023-07-31 12:33               ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 13:26                 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 16:03                   ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 16:25                     ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 17:26                       ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 18:13                         ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 18:17                           ` Michael
2023-08-01  9:53                             ` Peter Humphrey
2023-08-01 10:42                               ` Michael
2023-08-01 16:56                                 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 17:57                       ` Michael
2023-08-01  9:55                         ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 18:14                     ` Neil Bothwick
2023-07-31 14:19                 ` Wols Lists
2023-07-31 15:55                   ` Peter Humphrey
2023-08-01 18:51                     ` Wols Lists
2023-08-01 23:39                       ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-29  9:26 ` Michael
2023-07-31  1:12 ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 16:14   ` Peter Humphrey
2023-07-31 16:59     ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 17:16       ` Alexe Stefan
2023-07-31 17:23         ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 17:32           ` Kusoneko
2023-07-31 17:52             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-07-31 18:46               ` Kusoneko
2023-07-31 18:57                 ` Matt Connell
2023-07-31 20:22                 ` Grant Edwards
2023-07-31 20:24                   ` David Rosenbaum
2023-07-31 19:27             ` [gentoo-user] " Laurence Perkins
2023-07-31 17:36           ` Jack
2023-07-31 17:43         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards

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