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From: "Butterworth, John W." <jbutterworth@mitre.org>
To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Portage + checksums
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:06:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8622C222D2FC9D499533B1EEF631D39303331FA8F9@IMCMBX1.MITRE.ORG> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100407143507.3dca719a@toxic.dbnet>

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So to avoid "spamming" with 20+ Thank You emails I'll send out just one and
thank you all collectively for the information provided (I hope this isn't
rude - I'm not sure of proper protocol in this situation).  

I have a lot more insight now and some new ideas of where I need to look to
learn more.  This is a great community and it reflects in the OS - I don't
know why I waited so long to try Gentoo.(??)!
-john

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas de Buhr [mailto:jonas.de.buhr@gmx.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:35 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Portage + checksums


>This was an argument against Gentoo more than six or seven years ago
>with regards to the security of whole portage system.  

Every package management system which uses hashes to verify integrity
has the same problems.

I think a lot of source tarballs are downloaded from the official sites
anyway. Someone really paranoid might manually check the patches.

>A number of
>suggestions were made in those early days, one of them being to sync
>with two mirrors and diff the ebuilds/Manifests/Distfiles affected by
>these two most recent syncs.  As far as I know people didn't go for
>this because it was perceived that the system as implemented was
>secure enough and anyway the proposed solution would put too much
>pressure on the mirrors.

I do not have the intention to restart the discussion you mentioned.
But getting hashes and tarballs from the same source (mirror) doesn't go
far for security. At the moment I just trust the official mirrors and
trust that the community would realize soon if there were trojaned
packages the same way I trust apache or the kernel devs not to do
anything funny.

But I still like the idea of files signed with asynchr. crypt. I sure
will have a look into "FEATURES=sign".

/jdb


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-07 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-06 18:15 [gentoo-user] Portage + checksums Butterworth, John W.
2010-04-06 18:24 ` Albert W. Hopkins
2010-04-06 18:56   ` Butterworth, John W.
2010-04-06 20:10     ` Jonas de Buhr
2010-04-06 20:41     ` Alan McKinnon
2010-04-06 21:13       ` Paul Hartman
2010-04-06 21:26         ` Alan McKinnon
2010-04-06 21:46           ` Mark Knecht
2010-04-06 22:16             ` Alan McKinnon
2010-04-07  5:58               ` Mick
2010-04-07 12:35                 ` Jonas de Buhr
2010-04-07 15:06                   ` Butterworth, John W. [this message]
2010-04-08 22:58                     ` Mick

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