From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6D213877A for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCF67E0A5E; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D014E0907 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.135] (helo=smtp4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X1tlj-0004Cc-Ts for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:50:27 +0200 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X1tlj-0008AK-F0 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:50:27 +0200 Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [213.19.196.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D78854C for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:49:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:49:06 +0200 Message-ID: <8512671.Nma0r61K45@andromeda> Organization: Antarean User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (Linux/3.12.21-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53B271B4.1000507@gmail.com> References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <20140629151736.GA17188@asp.Speedport_W723_V_Typ_A_1_01_001> <53B271B4.1000507@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1,BAYES_00=-1.9,PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: 6577e709-6b24-4fbb-a5e0-e50ebad9e930 X-Archives-Hash: c61fcc201b9d00ac721c52c6369b54c4 On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 03:30:44 AM Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:57:55PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can. = I may > >> even make it into a removable thingy. Then I can make backups and= just > >> put it in a outbuilding. By the way, my outbuilding is pretty far= from > >=20 > > For such use, I am planning to get an external SATA dock, rather th= an use > > a =E2=80=9Cremovable thingy=E2=80=9D. You pop in the naked drive an= d stow that away after > > you=E2=80=99re done. This has multiple advantages. For one, you can= read SMART > > data > > from the external drives, provided you use a SATA connection. Cou c= an=E2=80=99t do > > that over USB. So if your board has an eSATA connector, get an exte= rnal > > dock such as . > > If it doesn=E2=80=99t, you can get an internal one for a 5=C2=BC=E2= =80=B3 slot in the front of > > your case, like http://www.sharkoon.com/?q=3Den/node/1281 for one 3= .5=E2=80=B3 HDD, > > or http://www.sharkoon.com/?q=3Den/content/sata-qp-intern-multi for= both > > big and small HDDs (plus some USB3 connectors, if your case doesn=E2= =80=99t have > > them but your board provides a header). > >=20 > > Those docks are only slightly more expensive than an external case,= but > > you > > can use them for all your drives, not just a single one, and you ha= ve no > > hassle with countless external power supplies (=E2=80=9Cwhich one d= id go into > > which > > case?=E2=80=9D). > >=20 > > PS: I=E2=80=99m not saying you should get a Sharkoon, after all I h= aven=E2=80=99t bought > > it > > yet myself. But their site shows nicely what=E2=80=99s available an= d gives me > > ideas. -- > > Gru=C3=9F | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 > > Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social n= etwork. > >=20 > > Please don=E2=80=99t befuddle me with facts, my mind is set. >=20 > I been wanting to get me something external but hadn't got around to > looking yet. I didn't know they have a SATA version. I plan to avoi= d > USB if I can. From my understanding, eSATA can be hotplugged and I h= ave > a couple of those connections. >=20 > Thanks for the info. It put me on a different path. This one comes with an eSATA connection: http://www.sharkoon.com/?q=3Den/content/sata-quickport-pro The following comes with eSATA and network connection (might be an opti= on?) http://www.sharkoon.com/?q=3Den/content/sata-qp-pro-lan-giga I have no idea if the network option works easily with Linux as I don't= own=20 either of these 2. I do know these devices work as advertised when used with USB.=20 -- Joost