* [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
[not found] <84f5abeb-2557-10b7-9cca-5845215db109.ref@verizon.net>
@ 2022-11-16 7:11 ` Alan Grimes
2022-11-16 14:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
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0 siblings, 4 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alan Grimes @ 2022-11-16 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo User
Even though only 45 days have passed since my last update, I felt like
doing one tonight. Usually I should wait six months just to save myself
the aggrivation... (I'm looking to set up a local bitcoin wallet
because the exchanges are not to be trusted anymore...)
Naturally nothnig worked because, hey, this is gentoo.... (My system
was * * * * * perfect after the update 45 days ago...)
I'm jackhammering the system now and I'm getting about 50% error spew
and 50% successful install... Hopefully my list of out of date packages
will begin to wane soon and the deeper issues will be exposed. If I just
say "hey what do you need to update everything" it barfs with only the
following:
my best guess is that the penguins are dropping dead after poisoning
themselves with the fake vaccine and making a mess of things as they go
down. =\
tortoise ~ # ./pretendupdate
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy
"media-libs/libsdl2[abi_x86_32?,alsa?,custom-cflags?,joystick?,nas?,opengl?,oss?,pulseaudio?,sound?,static-libs?,video?,X?]".
(dependency required by "media-libs/libsdl-1.2.60::poly-c" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "dev-libs/zziplib-0.13.72-r2::gentoo[sdl]" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "app-text/texlive-core-2021-r4::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "dev-texlive/texlive-formatsextra-2021::gentoo"
[installed])
(dependency required by
"app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14-r5::gentoo[jadetex]" [installed])
(dependency required by "gnome-extra/gnome-color-manager-3.36.0::gentoo"
[installed])
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-control-center-43.1::gentoo"
[ebuild])
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-shell-42.5-r2::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by
"gnome-extra/gnome-browser-connector-42.1::gentoo" [ebuild])
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tortoise ~ #
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#EggCrisis #BlackWinter
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Powers are not rights.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 7:11 ` [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives? Alan Grimes
@ 2022-11-16 14:00 ` Grant Edwards
2022-11-16 15:55 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-11-16 23:02 ` Peter Humphrey
2022-11-16 14:59 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Fink
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Grant Edwards @ 2022-11-16 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2022-11-16, Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
> Even though only 45 days have passed since my last update, I felt
> like doing one tonight. Usually I should wait six months just to
> save myself the aggrivation... (I'm looking to set up a local
> bitcoin wallet because the exchanges are not to be trusted
> anymore...)
>
> Naturally nothnig worked because, hey, this is gentoo....
One wonders why you continue to run Gentoo, since it's so awful and
you hate it so much.
--
Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 7:11 ` [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives? Alan Grimes
2022-11-16 14:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2022-11-16 14:59 ` Andreas Fink
2022-11-16 16:01 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-11-16 16:17 ` Alan Grimes
2022-11-16 15:14 ` Julien Roy
2022-11-17 6:52 ` Paul Colquhoun
3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Fink @ 2022-11-16 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 02:11:18 -0500
Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm jackhammering the system now and I'm getting about 50% error spew
I would suggest a different tool than a jackhammer to fix the problems.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 7:11 ` [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives? Alan Grimes
2022-11-16 14:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2022-11-16 14:59 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Fink
@ 2022-11-16 15:14 ` Julien Roy
2022-11-17 6:52 ` Paul Colquhoun
3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Julien Roy @ 2022-11-16 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> writes:
> (dependency required by "media-libs/libsdl-1.2.60::poly-c" [ebuild])
This ebuild is from a different overlay, it's probably not helping. The
first thing I'd try is disabling the overlay to see if this is the cause
of the problem.
--
Julien
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* RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 14:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2022-11-16 15:55 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-11-16 23:02 ` Peter Humphrey
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Laurence Perkins @ 2022-11-16 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 6:01 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
>
> On 2022-11-16, Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Even though only 45 days have passed since my last update, I felt like
> > doing one tonight. Usually I should wait six months just to save
> > myself the aggrivation... (I'm looking to set up a local bitcoin
> > wallet because the exchanges are not to be trusted
> > anymore...)
> >
> > Naturally nothnig worked because, hey, this is gentoo....
>
> One wonders why you continue to run Gentoo, since it's so awful and you hate it so much.
>
> --
> Grant
>
Because it's the only thing that lets him make all the esoteric customizations he wants. I have a brother who has the same kinds of troubles just about as often. He just also knows that it's because he wants to compile everything with LLVM/Clang.
Unfortunately, the package manager that can account for everything the user might possibly have changed and make it compile anyway is still a work in progress.
LMP
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* RE: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 14:59 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Fink
@ 2022-11-16 16:01 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-11-16 16:17 ` Alan Grimes
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Laurence Perkins @ 2022-11-16 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andreas Fink <finkandreas@web.de>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 6:59 AM
>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
>
>On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 02:11:18 -0500
>Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm jackhammering the system now and I'm getting about 50% error spew
>I would suggest a different tool than a jackhammer to fix the problems.
>
>
A machete is a much better choice usually. Chop out all the weeds like poorly-maintained overlays, programs you don't use any more, and (in extremity) the virtuals and perl.
Trying to go deep first and fix the core with all the brush and rubbish still cluttering up the top is usually an exercise in frustration and a good way to have some errant twig poke you in the eye repeatedly.
LMP
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 14:59 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Fink
2022-11-16 16:01 ` Laurence Perkins
@ 2022-11-16 16:17 ` Alan Grimes
2022-11-16 16:40 ` Laurence Perkins
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alan Grimes @ 2022-11-16 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user, Andreas Fink
Andreas Fink wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 02:11:18 -0500
> Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm jackhammering the system now and I'm getting about 50% error spew
> I would suggest a different tool than a jackhammer to fix the problems.
Basic assumption: Problems are caused by outdated packages.
Underlying problem: In order to break a log-jam it is necessary to purge
outdated packages.
Facts on the ground: The only way to make ANY progress in updating
outdated packages is to jackhammer the hell out of all packages in hopes
that some of them might sucessfully update which will, hopefully either:
A. allow other packages to sucessfully update
B. Expose something that can be fixed.
Once the logjam is broken, the system is then --emptytree world'ed and
declared healthy... Expected failure rate is on the order of 0.3% of
hopefully unimportant packages.
It is known that the KDE group of packages has incomplete dependency
graph because it is hopelessly convoluted, and it always causes problems
and the only way to break through it is the jackhammer approach.
LLVM and friends also fails to update when updating within a single slot
and this is VERY annoying...
What causes me to post to the list is when I get failures that prevent
me from even beginning to jackhammer the system.
--
Beware of Zombies. =O
#EggCrisis #BlackWinter
White is the new Kulak.
Powers are not rights.
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* RE: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 16:17 ` Alan Grimes
@ 2022-11-16 16:40 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-11-16 22:52 ` Alan Grimes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Laurence Perkins @ 2022-11-16 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, Andreas Fink
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:18 AM
>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Andreas Fink <finkandreas@web.de>
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
>
>Andreas Fink wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 02:11:18 -0500
>> Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm jackhammering the system now and I'm getting about 50% error spew
>> I would suggest a different tool than a jackhammer to fix the problems.
>
>Basic assumption: Problems are caused by outdated packages.
>Underlying problem: In order to break a log-jam it is necessary to purge outdated packages.
>Facts on the ground: The only way to make ANY progress in updating outdated packages is to jackhammer the hell out of all packages in hopes that some of them might sucessfully update which will, hopefully either:
>
>A. allow other packages to sucessfully update B. Expose something that can be fixed.
>
>Once the logjam is broken, the system is then --emptytree world'ed and declared healthy... Expected failure rate is on the order of 0.3% of hopefully unimportant packages.
>
>It is known that the KDE group of packages has incomplete dependency graph because it is hopelessly convoluted, and it always causes problems and the only way to break through it is the jackhammer approach.
>
>LLVM and friends also fails to update when updating within a single slot and this is VERY annoying...
>
>What causes me to post to the list is when I get failures that prevent me from even beginning to jackhammer the system.
>
>--
>Beware of Zombies. =O
>#EggCrisis #BlackWinter
>White is the new Kulak.
>Powers are not rights.
>
If you're going to try to dig all the way to the bottom first then --ignore-world and --ignore-built-slot-operator-deps can be helpful for forcing it to build what it needs to break a dependency loop. But do be aware that things may cease to function during the intermediate stages.
If those are not sufficiently strong, then you can climb into the package repo and start issuing ebuild commands yourself and it will do what it's told without bothering about checking dependencies at all. Make sure you know what you're doing... Obviously...
But seriously, try disabling any overlays first if at all possible. It's quite common for those to lag behind the main repo and turn things into a tangled mess.
An expected failure rate "on the order of" 0.3% means you expect it to be no less than 0.03% and no more than 30%... So I think you're probably already within that envelope. :D
LMP
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 16:40 ` Laurence Perkins
@ 2022-11-16 22:52 ` Alan Grimes
2022-11-17 0:18 ` Laurence Perkins
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alan Grimes @ 2022-11-16 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo User
Laurence Perkins wrote:
>> If you're going to try to dig all the way to the bottom first then --ignore-world and --ignore-built-slot-operator-deps can be helpful for forcing it to build what it needs to break a dependency loop. But do be aware that things may cease to function during the intermediate stages.
>>
>> If those are not sufficiently strong, then you can climb into the package repo and start issuing ebuild commands yourself and it will do what it's told without bothering about checking dependencies at all. Make sure you know what you're doing... Obviously...
>>
>> But seriously, try disabling any overlays first if at all possible. It's quite common for those to lag behind the main repo and turn things into a tangled mess.
At this point the jackhammers have gone silent and I'm left with the
issue I had before:
tortoise ~ # emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y world
--verbose --backtrack=40 --changed-deps --verbose-conflicts --pretend
--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy
"media-libs/libsdl2[abi_x86_32?,alsa?,custom-cflags?,joystick?,nas?,opengl?,oss?,pulseaudio?,sound?,static-libs?,video?,X?]".
(dependency required by "media-libs/libsdl-1.2.60::poly-c" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "dev-libs/zziplib-0.13.72-r2::gentoo[sdl]" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "app-text/texlive-core-2021-r4::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "dev-texlive/texlive-formatsextra-2021::gentoo"
[installed])
(dependency required by
"app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14-r5::gentoo[jadetex]" [installed])
(dependency required by "gnome-extra/gnome-color-manager-3.36.0::gentoo"
[installed])
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-control-center-43.1::gentoo"
[installed])
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-shell-42.5-r2::gentoo"
[installed])
(dependency required by
"gnome-extra/gnome-browser-connector-42.1::gentoo" [ebuild])
tortoise ~ #
I then checked my overlays, and it turns out I had an outrageously
bloated number of layers installed:
tortoise ~ # layman -l
* poly-c [Rsync ]
(rsync://rsync.gentoofan.org/poly-c )
* wichtounet [Git ]
(https://github.com/wichtounet/wichtounet-overlay.git )
tortoise ~ #
#############################
I think one of those was because mainline had stopped maintaining
seamnokey and I needed it maintained. No idea what I was smoking when I
applied the other or even which is which. In all likelyhood I had a
problem and applying that overlay solved it and because I didn't have a
problem after solving said problem, I forgot about it and can't really
say what or even when it was I had that problem. All I have now is this
lingering sense that touching those overlays will result in misery and
suffering so it's best not to even look up how to remove either of them.
eclan still shows a large number of outdated packages on the system so
there is definitely lots of updating to work if I can get emerge out of
its current hissy-fit.
tortoise ~ # eclean-dist
* Building file list for distfiles cleaning...
* ERROR: games-strategy/boswars-9999::poly-c failed (depend phase):
* EAPI 6 unsupported.
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 614: Called source
'/var/lib/layman/poly-c/games-strategy/boswars/boswars-9999.ebuild'
* boswars-9999.ebuild, line 7: Called inherit 'desktop'
'scons-utils' 'subversion'
* ebuild.sh, line 294: Called __qa_source
'/usr/portage/eclass/scons-utils.eclass'
* ebuild.sh, line 109: Called source
'/usr/portage/eclass/scons-utils.eclass'
* scons-utils.eclass, line 89: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* *) die "EAPI ${EAPI} unsupported."
*
* If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=games-strategy/boswars-9999::poly-c'`,
* the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=games-strategy/boswars-9999::poly-c'`.
* Working directory: '/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages'
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/games-strategy/boswars-9999/work/boswars-9999'
* Cleaning distfiles...
[ 1.7 M ] frameworkintegration-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 86.9 K ] kaccounts-integration-22.08.1.tar.xz
[ 63.1 K ] kaccounts-providers-22.08.1.tar.xz
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[ 27.7 K ] kcrash-5.98.0.tar.xz
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[ 38.6 K ] kded-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 3.5 M ] kdelibs4support-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 430.4 K ] kdoctools-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 1.6 M ] kemoticons-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 94.9 K ] kglobalaccel-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 72.1 K ] kguiaddons-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 1.9 M ] khtml-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 116.7 K ] kinit-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 331.3 K ] kjs-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 85.4 K ] knotifyconfig-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 192.2 K ] kparts-5.98.0.tar.xz
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[ 85.7 K ] krunner-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 262.6 K ] kservice-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 320.6 K ] ktextwidgets-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 878.1 K ] kunitconversion-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 325.1 K ] kwallet-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 882.2 K ] kxmlgui-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 170.8 K ] purpose-5.98.0.tar.xz
[ 64.8 K ] qqc2-desktop-style-5.98.0.tar.xz
===========
[ 14.0 M ] Total space from 30 files were freed in the distfiles
directory
The following unavailable installed packages were found
app-arch/upx-3.96-r2
app-arch/zip-3.0-r5
dev-cpp/rapidfuzz-cpp-1.7.0
dev-lang/go-1.19.1
dev-lang/python-2.7.18_p15-r1
dev-libs/jansson-2.14
dev-libs/kpathsea-6.3.3_p20210325
dev-libs/libfmt-7.1.3
dev-libs/libgdata-0.18.1
dev-libs/libgusb-0.4.0
dev-libs/libsodium-1.0.18
dev-libs/serd-0.30.14-r1
dev-libs/sord-0.16.12-r1
dev-lua/luajson-1.3.4-r100
dev-python/Levenshtein-0.20.5
dev-python/aiohttp-3.8.3
dev-python/distro-1.7.0
dev-python/hatch-fancy-pypi-readme-22.7.0
dev-python/mypy_extensions-0.4.3-r1
dev-python/pillow-9.2.0
dev-python/poetry-core-1.2.0
dev-python/pytz-2022.2.1
dev-python/rapidfuzz-2.10.2
dev-python/twisted-22.8.0
dev-util/byacc-20220128
dev-util/opencl-headers-2022.09.23
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-42.2-r3
gnome-base/gvfs-1.50.2
gnome-extra/gnome-browser-connector-42.0
kde-frameworks/kcalendarcore-5.98.0
kde-frameworks/kdnssd-5.98.0
kde-frameworks/kholidays-5.98.0
kde-frameworks/kplotting-5.98.0
kde-frameworks/kquickcharts-5.98.0
mail-mta/ssmtp-2.64-r4
media-gfx/mypaint-brushes-2.0.2
media-libs/dssi-1.1.1-r1
media-libs/ftgl-2.1.3_rc5
media-libs/libquicktime-1.2.4-r3
media-libs/libvpx-1.12.0
media-libs/lilv-0.24.18-r1
media-libs/raptor-2.0.15-r6
media-libs/suil-0.10.16-r1
media-video/pipewire-0.3.59
net-libs/libaccounts-glib-1.26
net-libs/libotr-4.1.1
net-libs/libsignon-glib-2.1-r1
net-libs/telepathy-logger-qt-17.09.0
net-libs/telepathy-qt-0.9.8-r1
net-misc/freerdp-2.8.0
sys-apps/hwdata-0.362
sys-devel/autoconf-2.13-r3
sys-devel/clang-runtime-15.0.1 ...distfile name(s) not
known/saved
sys-devel/clang-toolchain-symlinks-15-r1 ...distfile
name(s) not known/saved
sys-fs/lvm2-2.03.16_pre
sys-fs/mtools-4.0.41
sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-5.19.12
sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-5.19.8
sys-libs/compiler-rt-15.0.1
sys-libs/compiler-rt-sanitizers-15.0.1
x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r3 ...distfile name(s) not known/saved
tortoise ~ #
Hmm, poly-c is looking like it's a common factor here.
--
Beware of Zombies. =O
#EggCrisis #BlackWinter
White is the new Kulak.
Powers are not rights.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 14:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2022-11-16 15:55 ` Laurence Perkins
@ 2022-11-16 23:02 ` Peter Humphrey
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Peter Humphrey @ 2022-11-16 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:00:36 GMT Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2022-11-16, Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Even though only 45 days have passed since my last update, I felt
> > like doing one tonight. Usually I should wait six months just to
> > save myself the aggrivation... (I'm looking to set up a local
> > bitcoin wallet because the exchanges are not to be trusted
> > anymore...)
> >
> > Naturally nothnig worked because, hey, this is gentoo....
>
> One wonders why you continue to run Gentoo, since it's so awful and
> you hate it so much.
And I wonder why anyone bothers answering him.
Let him stew in his own juice.
--
Regards,
Peter.
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* RE: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 22:52 ` Alan Grimes
@ 2022-11-17 0:18 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-11-17 0:26 ` Michael Cook
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Laurence Perkins @ 2022-11-17 0:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>tortoise ~ # eclean-dist
> * Building file list for distfiles cleaning...
> * ERROR: games-strategy/boswars-9999::poly-c failed (depend phase):
> * EAPI 6 unsupported.
Possibly also need to upgrade portage and/or gentoolkit first. That's usually a good idea regardless.
>Hmm, poly-c is looking like it's a common factor here.
>
>
Overlays can go stale, even if they were previously necessary to fix something. For long-term use pulling just the ebuilds you need into your own overlay often works out better.
LMP
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-17 0:18 ` Laurence Perkins
@ 2022-11-17 0:26 ` Michael Cook
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Michael Cook @ 2022-11-17 0:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 11/16/22 19:18, Laurence Perkins wrote:
>
>> tortoise ~ # eclean-dist
>> * Building file list for distfiles cleaning...
>> * ERROR: games-strategy/boswars-9999::poly-c failed (depend phase):
>> * EAPI 6 unsupported.
> Possibly also need to upgrade portage and/or gentoolkit first. That's usually a good idea regardless.
>
>> Hmm, poly-c is looking like it's a common factor here.
>>
>>
> Overlays can go stale, even if they were previously necessary to fix something. For long-term use pulling just the ebuilds you need into your own overlay often works out better.
>
> LMP
Personally I just mask the overlay and unmask what I need. If something
breaks, I look into fixing it. Upgrading rather frequently seems to
limit this, just maintain the system. Waiting months and then having to
deal with tons of changes and an overlay going dead (I don't think
poly-c exists anymore?) is way worse.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-16 7:11 ` [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives? Alan Grimes
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2022-11-16 15:14 ` Julien Roy
@ 2022-11-17 6:52 ` Paul Colquhoun
2022-11-17 12:52 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-11-17 13:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Paul Colquhoun @ 2022-11-17 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 6:11:18 P.M. AEDT Alan Grimes wrote:
> Even though only 45 days have passed since my last update, I felt like
> doing one tonight. Usually I should wait six months just to save myself
> the aggrivation...
No, waiting 6 months between updates *causes* aggrivation.
Try updateing on a regular schedule, at 1 or 2 week intervals, and see if
your experience improves.
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC. http://andor.dropbear.id.au/
Asking for technical help in newsgroups? Read this first:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-17 6:52 ` Paul Colquhoun
@ 2022-11-17 12:52 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-11-17 13:25 ` Peter Humphrey
2022-11-17 13:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Dr Rainer Woitok @ 2022-11-17 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Paul,
On Thursday, 2022-11-17 17:52:17 +1100, you wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 6:11:18 P.M. AEDT Alan Grimes wrote:
> > ...
> > Usually I should wait six months just to save myself
> > the aggrivation...
>
> No, waiting 6 months between updates *causes* aggrivation.
The last word you're using here was originally coined by Allan. Since I
didn't find it in my dictionary, I assume it doesn't exist. So I would
suggest using either "aggravation" or "aggrievation", another word I did
not find in my dictionary, but which seems to fit even better ... :-)
Sincerely,
Rainer
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-17 6:52 ` Paul Colquhoun
2022-11-17 12:52 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
@ 2022-11-17 13:14 ` Grant Edwards
2022-11-17 13:48 ` Neil Bothwick
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Grant Edwards @ 2022-11-17 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2022-11-17, Paul Colquhoun <paulcol@andor.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 6:11:18 P.M. AEDT Alan Grimes wrote:
>> Even though only 45 days have passed since my last update, I felt like
>> doing one tonight. Usually I should wait six months just to save myself
>> the aggrivation...
>
> No, waiting 6 months between updates *causes* aggrivation.
Indeed.
> Try updateing on a regular schedule, at 1 or 2 week intervals, and
> see if your experience improves.
He's been told this many times. He prefers to wait and complain.
--
Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-17 12:52 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
@ 2022-11-17 13:25 ` Peter Humphrey
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Peter Humphrey @ 2022-11-17 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thursday, 17 November 2022 12:52:33 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Paul,
>
> On Thursday, 2022-11-17 17:52:17 +1100, you wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 6:11:18 P.M. AEDT Alan Grimes wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Usually I should wait six months just to save myself
> > >
> > > the aggrivation...
> >
> > No, waiting 6 months between updates *causes* aggrivation.
>
> The last word you're using here was originally coined by Allan. Since I
> didn't find it in my dictionary, I assume it doesn't exist. So I would
> suggest using either "aggravation" or "aggrievation", another word I did
> not find in my dictionary, but which seems to fit even better ... :-)
If you consult a dictionary, you'll find that 'aggravate' means 'make worse';
thus, a medical condition may be aggravated by neglect.
The word you want is 'annoyance' - or just 'trouble'.
--
Regards,
Peter.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-17 13:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2022-11-17 13:48 ` Neil Bothwick
2022-11-17 14:12 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2022-11-17 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > Try updateing on a regular schedule, at 1 or 2 week intervals, and
> > see if your experience improves.
>
> He's been told this many times. He prefers to wait and complain.
It could be worse, he could update every 1 or 2 weeks and complain/rant
every time :-O
--
Neil Bothwick
"Thou shalt not battle over operating systems. I am wise and in My wisdom
have created diverse and various operating systems."
The Ten Usenet Commandments: One
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Libsld, what gives?
2022-11-17 13:48 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2022-11-17 14:12 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2022-11-17 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 6:48 AM Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> It could be worse, he could update every 1 or 2 weeks and complain/rant
> every time :-O
>
:-)
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