[gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[Philip Webb]

I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE
because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox.

Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found
or what its replacement is ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE
> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox.
>
> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found
> or what its replacement is ?
>


This doesn't make a lot of sense to me since I use the GUI and xdm
service.  I think this might make sense to you tho.


From the console

    To start Plasma with xinit/startx, append exec startplasma-x11 to
your .xinitrc file.

Does that help? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[Philip Webb]

191228 Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
>> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE
>> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox.
>> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found
>> or what its replacement is ?
> I think this might make sense to you :
> "From the console to start Plasma with xinit/startx,
> append 'exec startplasma-x11' to your  .xinitrc  file.

Thanks ! -- I'm now back in the questionable glories of KDE !

However, as someone else discovered, the L-click menu doesn't work now.
I didn't follow that thread in detail : did anyone solve the problem ?

I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
Has anyone else seen this ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Philip Webb wrote:
>I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
>The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
>but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.

Check your "HW clock is on local or UTC time" settings ...

HTH,
-dnh

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> 191228 Dale wrote:
>> Philip Webb wrote:
>>> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE
>>> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox.
>>> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found
>>> or what its replacement is ?
>> I think this might make sense to you :
>> "From the console to start Plasma with xinit/startx,
>> append 'exec startplasma-x11' to your  .xinitrc  file.
> Thanks ! -- I'm now back in the questionable glories of KDE !
>
> However, as someone else discovered, the L-click menu doesn't work now.
> I didn't follow that thread in detail : did anyone solve the problem ?
>
> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
> but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
> Has anyone else seen this ?
>


Either delete and logout/login again or figure out what line is
offending KDE so much.  This is the file:

plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc

Which is located in /home/<your-user>/.config/ .  That is what fixed the
other persons problem.  Knowing what line does this would be nice.  You
lose pretty much all your settings it seems. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> 191228 Dale wrote:
>> Philip Webb wrote:
>>> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE
>>> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox.
>>> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found
>>> or what its replacement is ?
>> I think this might make sense to you :
>> "From the console to start Plasma with xinit/startx,
>> append 'exec startplasma-x11' to your  .xinitrc  file.
> Thanks ! -- I'm now back in the questionable glories of KDE !
>
> However, as someone else discovered, the L-click menu doesn't work now.
> I didn't follow that thread in detail : did anyone solve the problem ?
>
> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
> but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
> Has anyone else seen this ?
>


Since mine is working, here is my file with a few irrelevant parts
removed.  For future reference, anyone posting this who doesn't want to
have everyone knowing where you live etc, filter this file.  I found
city name, state, zip code and such in this thing.  O_O 



[ActionPlugins][0]
MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste
RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu

[ActionPlugins][0][RightButton;NoModifier]
_add panel=true
_context=true
_lock_screen=true
_logout=true
_run_command=true
_sep1=true
_sep2=true
_sep3=true
_wallpaper=true
add widgets=true
configure=true
configure shortcuts=false
lock widgets=true
manage activities=true
remove=true
run associated application=true

[ActionPlugins][1]
RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu

[Containments][10]
ItemGeometriesHorizontal=
activityId=31065c92-9e8f-487b-98b9-ffb3f31aeb56
formfactor=0
immutability=1
lastScreen=0
location=0
plugin=org.kde.plasma.folder
wallpaperplugin=org.kde.slideshow

[Containments][10][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=943
DialogWidth=1434

[Containments][10][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][10][General]
ToolBoxButtonState=topright
ToolBoxButtonX=1884
arrangement=1

[Containments][10][Wallpaper][org.kde.plasma.wallpaper.worldmap][General]
projection=Mercator

[Containments][10][Wallpaper][org.kde.potd][General]
FillMode=1

[Containments][11]
ItemGeometriesHorizontal=
activityId=31065c92-9e8f-487b-98b9-ffb3f31aeb56
formfactor=0
immutability=1
lastScreen=1
location=0
plugin=org.kde.plasma.folder
wallpaperplugin=org.kde.image

[Containments][11][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][11][Wallpaper][org.kde.image][General]
Image=file:///usr/share/wallpapers/Next/contents/images/1920x1080.png

[Containments][3]
activityId=
formfactor=2
immutability=1
lastScreen=0
location=4
plugin=org.kde.panel
wallpaperplugin=org.kde.image

[Containments][3][Applets][15]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.kicker

[Containments][3][Applets][15][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=89

[Containments][3][Applets][15][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=660
DialogWidth=880

[Containments][3][Applets][15][Configuration][General]
favoritesPortedToKAstats=true

[Containments][3][Applets][16]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon

[Containments][3][Applets][16][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0
localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/firefox (1).desktop
url=file:///home/dale/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop

[Containments][3][Applets][17]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon

[Containments][3][Applets][17][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0
localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/seamonkey (1).desktop
url=file:///home/dale/.local/share/applications/seamonkey.desktop

[Containments][3][Applets][19]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.systemloadviewer

[Containments][3][Applets][19][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][3][Applets][19][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=540
DialogWidth=720

[Containments][3][Applets][19][Configuration][General]
cpuAllActivated=true
monitorType=Compact Bar
setColorsManually=true

[Containments][3][Applets][21]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.net

[Containments][3][Applets][21][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][3][Applets][21][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=540
DialogWidth=720

[Containments][3][Applets][21][Configuration][General]
sources=network%2Finterfaces%2Feth1%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata

[Containments][3][Applets][22]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon

[Containments][3][Applets][22][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0
localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/systemsettings (1).desktop
url=file:///usr/share/applications/systemsettings.desktop

[Containments][3][Applets][25]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.weatherWidget

[Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=100

[Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration][Appearance]
layoutType=Vertical
renderMeteogram=true

[Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=720
DialogWidth=960

[Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration][Units]
pressureType=inHg
temperatureType=fahrenheit
windSpeedType=mph

[Containments][3][Applets][27]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.windowlist

[Containments][3][Applets][27][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=5

[Containments][3][Applets][27][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=720
DialogWidth=960

[Containments][3][Applets][32]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.weather

[Containments][3][Applets][32][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=720
DialogWidth=960

[Containments][3][Applets][33]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon

[Containments][3][Applets][33][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0
localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/org.kde.krusader.desktop
url=file:///home/dale/.local/share/applications/org.kde.krusader.desktop

[Containments][3][Applets][4][Configuration][General]
favoritesPortedToKAstats=true

[Containments][3][Applets][5]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.pager

[Containments][3][Applets][5][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][3][Applets][5][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=540
DialogWidth=720

[Containments][3][Applets][5][Configuration][General]
displayedText=Number
showOnlyCurrentScreen=true

[Containments][3][Applets][6]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.taskmanager

[Containments][3][Applets][6][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][3][Applets][6][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=868
DialogWidth=1152

[Containments][3][Applets][6][Configuration][General]
groupingStrategy=0
maxStripes=1
showOnlyCurrentDesktop=true
smartLaunchersEnabled=false
sortingStrategy=1
wheelEnabled=false

[Containments][3][Applets][7]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.systemtray

[Containments][3][Applets][7][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=100
SystrayContainmentId=8

[Containments][3][Applets][9]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.digitalclock

[Containments][3][Applets][9][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=100

[Containments][3][Applets][9][Configuration][Appearance]
displayTimezoneAsCode=false
enabledCalendarPlugins=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasmacalendarplugins/holidaysevents.so
selectedTimeZones=America/Chicago,Local
showLocalTimezone=true
showSeconds=true
use24hFormat=0

[Containments][3][Applets][9][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=540
DialogWidth=1027

[Containments][3][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=82
DialogWidth=1920

[Containments][3][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][3][General]
AppletOrder=15;22;33;16;17;27;5;6;19;21;25;32;7;9

[Containments][8]
activityId=
formfactor=2
immutability=1
lastScreen=0
location=4
plugin=org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray
wallpaperplugin=org.kde.image

[Containments][8][Applets][10]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.clipboard

[Containments][8][Applets][10][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=90

[Containments][8][Applets][11]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier

[Containments][8][Applets][11][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=100

[Containments][8][Applets][11][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=720
DialogWidth=960

[Containments][8][Applets][23]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller

[Containments][8][Applets][23][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][8][Applets][26][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=42

[Containments][8][Applets][27][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=42

[Containments][8][Applets][33][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=42

[Containments][8][Applets][34]
immutability=1
plugin=org.kde.plasma.notifications

[Containments][8][Applets][34][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=78

[Containments][8][Applets][34][Configuration][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=660
DialogWidth=880

[Containments][8][Applets][35][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=42

[Containments][8][ConfigDialog]
DialogHeight=652
DialogWidth=902

[Containments][8][Configuration]
PreloadWeight=0

[Containments][8][General]
extraItems=org.kde.plasma.clipboard,org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier,org.kde.plasma.notifications
hiddenItems=hp-systray,gnome-mplayer
knownItems=org.kde.plasma.notifications,org.kde.plasma.clipboard,org.kde.plasma.battery,org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller,org.kde.plasma.printmanager,org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier,org.kde.plasma.keyboardindicator
shownItems=KMix,org.kde.plasma.clipboard,org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier,org.kde.weatherWidget



I think the important bit is at the beginning of the file.  That seems
to be where mouse stuff is.

Hope this helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE panel shows wrong time

[Philip Webb]

191228 David Haller wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Philip Webb wrote:
>> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
>> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
>> but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
> Check your "HW clock is on local or UTC time" settings ...

In the system as a whole, that's always been my setting.
The 'date' command give : 'Sat 28 Dec 2019 09:44:07 PM EST' correctly.

In KDE, System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Date+Time -> Time Zone
shows 'UTC' ; if I change it to 'Toronto', then 'Apply', there's no change :
the digital clock in the panel continues to show '16:44:07 EST' ;
anyway, the Time Zone display tells me I can't save the configuration.
When I look at the 'Date + Time' display itself,
the analog clock shows the correct time, as does the legend below.

In  ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc , it says :

  [Containments][16][Applets][21][Configuration][Appearance]
  dateFormat=isoDate
  lastSelectedTimezone=America/Toronto
  selectedTimeZones=America/Toronto
  showDate=true
  showSeconds=true
  use24hFormat=2

This is what I would expect to see.

Why can't I save the configuration above ?  Perhaps that's the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE panel shows wrong time

[Philip Webb]

191228 Philip Webb wrote:
>> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
>> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
>> but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
> The 'date' command give : 'Sat 28 Dec 2019 09:44:07 PM EST' correctly.
> the digital clock in the panel continues to show '16:44:07 EST' ;
> When I look at the 'Date + Time' display itself,
> the analog clock shows the correct time, as does the legend below.

I just checked Fluxbox : its panel clock showed '22:06' correctly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE panel shows wrong time

[Franz Fellner]

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The top entry in the "time zone" config page is "local" "system time zone"
(or something like that, I don't run the desktop in English.)
What does it say there in the leftmost column?

To force the clock to "Toronto" you can simply uncheck the box for every
other than "Toronto".


Am So., 29. Dez. 2019 um 05:12 Uhr schrieb Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net
>:

> 191228 Philip Webb wrote:
> >> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
> >> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
> >> but in fact deducts another  5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
> > The 'date' command give : 'Sat 28 Dec 2019 09:44:07 PM EST' correctly.
> > the digital clock in the panel continues to show '16:44:07 EST' ;
> > When I look at the 'Date + Time' display itself,
> > the analog clock shows the correct time, as does the legend below.
>
> I just checked Fluxbox : its panel clock showed '22:06' correctly.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE panel shows wrong time : solved

[Philip Webb]

191229 Franz Fellner wrote:
> The top entry in the "time zone" config page is "local" "system time zone"

Yes.  This is under Digital Clock Settings.

> What does it say there in the leftmost column?

'UTC'.  That line's box isn't checked ; 'Toronto' below is checked.

> To force the clock to "Toronto"
> you can simply uncheck the box for every other than "Toronto".

They are all unchecked.

Well anyway, I unchecked "Toronto" & was warned that  >= 1  must be checked
& that it had automatically checked "Local : your system time zone",
after which the time showed was correct, ie now "5:26:38" (sb "05:26:38") ;
it doesn't say "EST" anymore, but that doesn't matter much.

The label 'UTC' under 'City' is very misleading.

Thanks for helping me solve a long-standing problem.
I'll add a note in my home-made help files.

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