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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 17:34:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83c03ffc-4371-8168-5363-2e33d85cff5d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200606231103.4f7e7c48@digimed.co.uk>

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:34:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>>>> From what I've read, I like my way better.  I did have to change the
>>>> names from bzimage* to kernel* but other than that, I can use the
>>>> naming method I've used for years and keep the good kernels I want.  
>>> make install names the kernels vmlinuz-$VERSION, and updates a
>>> symlink to vmlinuz if one exists.  
>> But sometimes I have more than one of the same version.  I add a -1, -2,
>> -3 etc to them as I go.  From my understanding, make install doesn't do
>> that.  I do and with good reason. It seems make install won't accomplish
>> what I do by hand.
> There's a kernel option that does that automatically, LOCALVERSION I
> think, but it's years since I've needed to touch it.

But if it changes how it works and I don't know it, that could cause
problems.  It could even remove something I don't want removed.  If I do
it myself, I know what is done and don't remove anything I don't want to
lose. Even the make commands change between kernels at times.  I suspect
make install has changes too.  I don't want to have to track kernel
changes just to know if I can use make install and still get what I have
now. 


>
>>>> My biggest problem, getting the dracut command options right.  If I
>>>> didn't need dracut, I'd be in heaven.   
>>> If you have a plain setup, dracut shouldn't need any options.
>> I don't have a plain setup tho nor do I really want that setup.
> You don't boot from an encrypted drive (yet) or use unusual hardware,
> that's what I meant by a plain system. Dracut handles booting from a a
> btrfs root on a LUKS encrypted block device here with no fancy
> configuration. It really is impressive the way it figures so much out for
> itself.
>

What I meant was, I don't use make install because I do things
differently than make install does.  It's not "plain" in that regard. 


>> I like
>> having backup kernels and my own numbering system.  It has worked for me
>> for decades, ever since I started using Gentoo and building my own
>> kernels.  I don't see any point in changing what works unless I can
>> streamline what I'm already getting with the results I expect.  If I
>> could get rid of the init thingy, I would have zero issues with my
>> method.  It's dracut that causes the issues. We all know how much I
>> dislike init thingys tho.  ;-)  That said, dracut hasn't failed me in a
>> while.  If it can't build correctly, it does spit out it failed.  It's
>> been a while since the init thingy it creates has failed as well.  So,
>> at least there is that. 
> I use a shell script to compile and install the kernel, build the
> initramfs and then update the bootloader. It means the process is always
> executed consistently and I only have to remember one command :)
>
>


Well, we know my scripting ability isn't anywhere near that advanced. 
Claiming I can do a basic script is a stretch.  ROFL  When I do it
manually, I get consistent results to and I know what steps were taken
to get there.  My only problem is recalling the options for dracut. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-06 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-05 19:01 [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem Jack
2020-06-05 20:24 ` Andrew Udvare
2020-06-05 20:48   ` Jack
2020-06-05 22:46     ` Neil Bothwick
2020-06-05 20:57   ` Dale
2020-06-05 22:51     ` Neil Bothwick
2020-06-06 15:13       ` Dale
2020-06-06 16:13         ` Neil Bothwick
2020-06-06 16:34           ` Dale
2020-06-06 17:20             ` Jack
2020-06-06 22:11             ` Neil Bothwick
2020-06-06 22:34               ` Dale [this message]
2020-06-06 23:55                 ` Jack
2020-06-11 14:18               ` antlists
2020-06-11 17:04                 ` madscientistatlarge
2020-06-11 22:08                 ` madscientistatlarge
2020-06-12 17:19               ` antlists

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