[gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

I'm installing a new system on an i3 NUC box, following the handbook, and I'm 
having trouble. After chrooting in, every command I issue is met with "bash: /
usr/libexec/vte-urlencode-cwd: No such file or directory". Everything from and 
including the first '. /etc/profile' is affected.

Google results suggested a connection with python, so I reinstalled that (yes, 
I know, but it was the same version), but still got the same error.

This happens whether I start from the latest stage-3 or one from a week or two 
ago. They were the plain variety, not desktop, and I set the corresponding 
profile: /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/23.0

Clues, anyone?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday, 8 June 2024 13:53:16 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I'm installing a new system on an i3 NUC box, following the handbook, and
> I'm having trouble. After chrooting in, every command I issue is met with
> "bash: / usr/libexec/vte-urlencode-cwd: No such file or directory".
> Everything from and including the first '. /etc/profile' is affected.
> 
> Google results suggested a connection with python, so I reinstalled that
> (yes, I know, but it was the same version), but still got the same error.
> 
> This happens whether I start from the latest stage-3 or one from a week or
> two ago. They were the plain variety, not desktop, and I set the
> corresponding profile:
> /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/23.0

I've just thought: am I a victim of the adoption of a new python version? Do I 
need to set targets or single-targets?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Michael]

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On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:08:59 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 June 2024 13:53:16 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I'm installing a new system on an i3 NUC box, following the handbook, and
> > I'm having trouble. After chrooting in, every command I issue is met with
> > "bash: / usr/libexec/vte-urlencode-cwd: No such file or directory".
> > Everything from and including the first '. /etc/profile' is affected.
> > 
> > Google results suggested a connection with python, so I reinstalled that
> > (yes, I know, but it was the same version), but still got the same error.
> > 
> > This happens whether I start from the latest stage-3 or one from a week or
> > two ago. They were the plain variety, not desktop, and I set the
> > corresponding profile:
> > /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/23.0
> 
> I've just thought: am I a victim of the adoption of a new python version? Do
> I need to set targets or single-targets?

I'm not sure the missing file in your error message is related to python - VTE 
is a GTK+3 widget used by some Gnome based terminal emulators and in 
particular Tilix.  Could this be related to your LiveUSB, instead of your 
chrooted fs?  I don't have this file here, probably because I don't use Gnome 
term to be able to compare notes.

A new python version following a portage update, which is not already part of 
your stage3, would show up when you try to update world once you have 
chroot'ed successfully.

In any case, you can check the stage3 /usr/bin/python* files and what version 
/etc/python-exec/python-exec.conf sets as its global python setting.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:27:03 BST Michael wrote:

> I'm not sure the missing file in your error message is related to python -
> VTE is a GTK+3 widget used by some Gnome based terminal emulators and in
> particular Tilix.  Could this be related to your LiveUSB, instead of your
> chrooted fs?  I don't have this file here, probably because I don't use
> Gnome term to be able to compare notes.

Well, it was a bit of a long shot. But I used a non-desktop tarball and set a 
non-desktop profile, so what has vte to do with it?

> A new python version following a portage update, which is not already part
> of your stage3, would show up when you try to update world once you have
> chroot'ed successfully.
> 
> In any case, you can check the stage3 /usr/bin/python* files and what
> version /etc/python-exec/python-exec.conf sets as its global python
> setting.

It sets python-12. Maybe I need to set it to 11 and try again.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Michael]

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On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:40:50 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:27:03 BST Michael wrote:
> > I'm not sure the missing file in your error message is related to python -
> > VTE is a GTK+3 widget used by some Gnome based terminal emulators and in
> > particular Tilix.  Could this be related to your LiveUSB, instead of your
> > chrooted fs?  I don't have this file here, probably because I don't use
> > Gnome term to be able to compare notes.
> 
> Well, it was a bit of a long shot. But I used a non-desktop tarball and set
> a non-desktop profile, so what has vte to do with it?

Quite.  A non-desktop setup would not sue or require a virtual terminal 
emulator desktop widget.  :-/


> > A new python version following a portage update, which is not already part
> > of your stage3, would show up when you try to update world once you have
> > chroot'ed successfully.
> > 
> > In any case, you can check the stage3 /usr/bin/python* files and what
> > version /etc/python-exec/python-exec.conf sets as its global python
> > setting.
> 
> It sets python-12. Maybe I need to set it to 11 and try again.

I don't think this would be wise.  Essentially you'll be trying to downgrade 
python from what the tarball contains and what the current profile defaults 
specify.

Bar retracing your steps to chroot as per the handbook, in case you got 
something wrong, I don't know what else to suggest.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:45:54 BST Michael wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:40:50 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday, 8 June 2024 14:27:03 BST Michael wrote:
> > > I'm not sure the missing file in your error message is related to python
> > > -
> > > VTE is a GTK+3 widget used by some Gnome based terminal emulators and in
> > > particular Tilix.  Could this be related to your LiveUSB, instead of
> > > your
> > > chrooted fs?  I don't have this file here, probably because I don't use
> > > Gnome term to be able to compare notes.
> > 
> > Well, it was a bit of a long shot. But I used a non-desktop tarball and
> > set
> > a non-desktop profile, so what has vte to do with it?
> 
> Quite.  A non-desktop setup would not sue or require a virtual terminal
> emulator desktop widget.  :-/
> 
> > > A new python version following a portage update, which is not already
> > > part
> > > of your stage3, would show up when you try to update world once you have
> > > chroot'ed successfully.
> > > 
> > > In any case, you can check the stage3 /usr/bin/python* files and what
> > > version /etc/python-exec/python-exec.conf sets as its global python
> > > setting.
> > 
> > It sets python-12. Maybe I need to set it to 11 and try again.
> 
> I don't think this would be wise.  Essentially you'll be trying to downgrade
> python from what the tarball contains and what the current profile defaults
> specify.
> 
> Bar retracing your steps to chroot as per the handbook, in case you got
> something wrong, I don't know what else to suggest.

I've found it. /etc/profile.d had two suspect files: vte-2.91.csh & vte-2.91.sh.

I don't know where they came from - perhaps another system of mine. I'll get 
rid of them and all should be well.

Thanks for the help.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday, 8 June 2024 16:24:03 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:

> I've found it. /etc/profile.d had two suspect files: vte-2.91.csh &
> vte-2.91.sh.
> 
> I don't know where they came from - perhaps another system of mine. I'll get
> rid of them and all should be well.

You'd hardly think I was the software quality manager of a varied team of 100 
at the national grid control centre, thirty years ago. Built the mgt system 
from scratch to ISO9001 and passed the audit first time. Not a lot of people 
can say that. And the lights stayed on, to boot.

I must be growing old. Well, we all are, but the effects are showing here.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be though.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem in new installation

[Jack]

On 6/8/24 5:51 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 June 2024 16:24:03 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
>> I've found it. /etc/profile.d had two suspect files: vte-2.91.csh &
>> vte-2.91.sh.
>>
>> I don't know where they came from - perhaps another system of mine. I'll get
>> rid of them and all should be well.
> You'd hardly think I was the software quality manager of a varied team of 100
> at the national grid control centre, thirty years ago. Built the mgt system
> from scratch to ISO9001 and passed the audit first time. Not a lot of people
> can say that. And the lights stayed on, to boot.
>
> I must be growing old. Well, we all are, but the effects are showing here.
>
> Nostalgia isn't what it used to be though.
That memory like a steel sieve will get you every time.