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HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[confabulate@kintzios.com] X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Archives-Salt: da358d46-f12a-411e-9b2b-6e226145f7a3 X-Archives-Hash: 5163ae3977baaf7793d4c263a8fd2987 --nextPart10444717.nUPlyArG6x Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] some problems moving to 23.0 profile Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 09:14:11 +0100 Message-ID: <8356857.T7Z3S40VBb@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: <5771314.DvuYhMxLoT@persephone> MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tuesday, 2 April 2024 07:03:42 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, 1 April 2024 23:46:49 CEST John Covici wrote: > > Hi. Well, I followed the steps in the news item, to move > > todefault/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/gnome/systemd > > > > and it all worked till it wants me to emerge the whole world file. > > Here is what I get: > > > > emerge --ask --emptytree @world > > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > > > Calculating dependencies .... done! > > Dependency resolution took 4.58 s (backtrack: 0/200). > > > > > > !!! Problems have been detected with your world file > > !!! Please run emaint --check world > > > > > > !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all > > !!! masked or don't exist: > > www-apps/nextcloud:26.0.10 > > > > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy > > "sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:6.1.69". > > (dependency required by "@kernels" [set]) > > (dependency required by "@selected" [set]) > > (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) > > > > I don't want to unmerge that kernel -- its my backup kernel, so I > > definitely want to keep it. I am using the nextcloud they are > > complaining about , I will upgrade it soon, but I want to keep it for > > now. > > Do you actually need to keep the kernel-sources? > Once the kernel is compiled and you moved the image to /boot/..., you don't > need to keep the sources. > > I also keep an older kernel just in case, but I don't tend to actually keep > the sources around once I have confirmed the new kernel will boot. > > -- > Joost When gentoo-sources are tree-cleaned, it is typically because they have been superseded by later kernel patches to improve security and resolve bugs. Therefore it is usually a 'good idea' to emerge a later kernel when this happens, even if we're talking about a backup kernel. Last week I came upon a similar problem on an old system I was trying to migrate to profile 23.0, only this happened not with my backup but with the running kernel. This PC had not been updated for 5-6 months. It's resource constrained and I didn't want to spend many days updating most of its deprecated packages, only to have to re-emerge them as part of the profile migration. I can't recall if it was the same kernel as John's. During the migration I came across some package (llvm?) which required a more up to date kernel to be able to emerge. This forced me to upgrade the kernel first, before I could continue with the migration. I'm mentioning this since the utility of a backup kernel would be limited when you can't use it to run your software. --nextPart10444717.nUPlyArG6x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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