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Audio: No To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_k+toE5DiWMPZrbnFqnJwVuQQ73B-rAmYeGTeyE-WKzBQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_=LvKf+pbq1Pfs_RfNUB76yFHz3Dv-FK0ZdFAMt_mAbYQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_=UDb35V==i5Ma3K6pNBBSyU0Ecp7_u97ZOYSfj-AwnqQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> <20161217085341.311b4c0f@digimed.co.uk> <8610f2b9-4407-05d1-e79f-3177bcdcdc1c@baums-on-web.de> <20161217131756.276f3eb1@digimed.co.uk> <5ed146ea-6279-e6d5-8ee2-c1c86291dd2c@baums-on-web.de> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82b4f7ab-d1a2-256c-1be0-965937d02152@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:44:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5ed146ea-6279-e6d5-8ee2-c1c86291dd2c@baums-on-web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ccad6e6e-90f2-416a-8a0c-1559b427938e X-Archives-Hash: 0fc8b181253dd19fe71e851cef7bf8a3 On 17/12/2016 16:35, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 17.12.2016 um 14:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > >> I'm running the Debian 7 version of Raspbian on a number of Pis, all >> without systemd. Yes, I am happy using systemd, but I can't be arsed >> changing them when they continue to work perfectly well. > > Then explain me how this is done. Btw., Debian's and Raspbian's software > repositories are somewhat outdated. But that's a different Debian > related subject. It's not Neil's job to solve your problems. It's your job. Neil isn't offering a solution to you, he's trying to guide your thoughts in a direction where you can see solutions, so please stop asking him (or anyone else) to find them for you. Nobody ever guaranteed that you would have, or not have, systemd. It is simply there and it is what it is. Software comes and goes, but you always have the original promise - there is nothing in this world stopping you from building software the way you want it. That's what Stallman did - he didn't like the current landscape so did something about it. You have that same right. You have the right to use the code anyway you see fit. Red Hat has the same right, and they are only answerable to their users. Nowhere does it say Red Hat has to listen to you and write code for your benefit; also nowhere does it say that Red Hat is permitted to stop you doing whatever you want. So now you know what your job is, get cracking. Started coding yet? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com