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Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <1892571.tdWV9SEqCh@rogueboard> <37ee3312-24ea-c7ff-9ca3-a4ad43443647@gmail.com> <8396760.T7Z3S40VBb@rogueboard> From: Dale Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBGFSciYBEADcEGMyJBSuavKO/XKUVvgkxck7Nl8Iuu8N2lcnRji/rSKg5c1Acix1ll9i oW8JBCHwvn0+Xy60BvEsqcup3YSHw5STl/bR1ePEehtnYrg8FdjdS91+B805RfnKMm69rFVI wLSBHQrSG1yxHd8CloWoEdhmVtP24buajbh114bgXd9ahtpZrCVMrWdWYUg2mEXguGV5uNAh Rf8SWxDNc79w24JxsV34a8niMUYMjzWr0rafIbzk732X38vGjVMLo/2mMpkbp9mPp++LHoY+ 0Pet8zxxdXPJSCd475kza1AD+hhSyBZXB9yknYWgyY3cZe1rGmooJSi2KX4QxO7npwLThcO1 be6KKRkd35+Fi/a1BzVOHsZMiK/gcwxEFoMd27gir4ehaeHJfFXl+65w4hj0EsOZSxrJrm2C R50g5By2czSKP1bADEygFNpIJj51AR+wM88NImG2RPtlT2maYBzazvF05g65cdHXGp1C7W5P wwwKU2DgABB2t7N7z5A69LnryBRw4zUYDRRYLTYlBlYgg+xILm2c0OrBdxJgLJa7JE50Eo25 d3PFwt9J0gYvqy6sPFLl9So0sDg9zm0hKQtXOP5kgropUFGrNoJI+mjwF4rYLRBVzZwNAvlO OhEvHubBo3mEllv4x+FeptwXZxlk7gUsdqI8AxnFB8K9wi6FVQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AW IQQSG1h01ruv/WNXc3Q3RqOgiQH1GwUCYVJy8gAKCRA3RqOgiQH1G+waEACeTZCt77jnRAmQ AV7otKuZekDWiLi3Eig8tj5ZJiCNSYA/hIxzmexRP0GMqjitcXK1iGwWcvMzzvIq30GAjIfB 4BR38cnXbtBa6fNewiT7QaZe/Hn6yBRldXNQypzbHy+/o27bUEy+oX4rE7etUgEHQAjuw7xz XFWg4tH1/KJvsOVY5upnWc5LdxYhsuQ3dQD4b22GsK0pOBDfb9PiirYM8eGKvrVuq4E/c75z lDDFhINl18lNZ9D0ZFL3IkTjHsAAqFH9uhnnEB8CWdHbBewPEfRaOhBUYWZ3Q8uTkmDgZT8q D9jlvLEdw7Nh2ApdxoepnI/4D+ql2Gr4DtH7SEPydr5gcf1Qr/2bXRb1hAYnIVcbncs/Bm3Z bkRKPVWMfE3Fusa+p5hMzixk0YysMaTHlc7mYRYAEZGnPMXnmcCbetwARU7A0yz1M1kCMOAQ Lsz8KH5kv3cRenMB6SFfjND2JfAK61H5TtnPq3L8noS2ZykRYxq9Nm3X64O1tJojIKBoZFr8 AwYNCvqC6puUyGMuzHPh7jPof8glfrrEKIYUvNPGMDoVX3IGetxh/9l6NcxgFA4JGoR+LS3C zmeNrwlllAe3OEUfKoWVQ+pagpSdM+8hHolaSda4Ys66Z3fCR4ZvcTqfhTAVskpqdXa4isAk 7vTcXu3L499ttywEp7rJTbkCDQRhUnImARAAncUdVhmtRr59zqpTUppKroQYlzR0jv8oa7DG K4gakTAT2N7evnI9wpssmzyVk8VEiLzhnFQ/Ol3FRt6hZCXDJt0clyHOyTfvz/MNFttWuZTc mLpSvmRR6VRjAH+Tz3Eam2xUw3PGuH97BcXQ3NnX3msv1UDxtxxBu6e2YrdeOhrCUSgzokcJ 98ChUNy934cgepPybAI12lSWqVFQ1aG7jExZfiUk+333fPSDbpKoZbTW5YJLXbycmW/C1IWL qYQyNjRWKaGoJtUWFhhmNiOQct7n90aKivNVPavmN+UQ9LlMaINtf9T6XCzLfogCFsulDCDJ 0yNQLDTurHaB4E71xoctgXmLLq9z1RQ0W2XiVAAOZQj6K3+d0AOUjDhCQ2QW8dUSq0ckkZXV DKVJOGS8Nhf2eIWIqRnP3AcUiiaiFGqUaVUmUAZ6h/oJmgghEu/1S+pcuUKU5i69+XCZ3hH2 Jzwzbf7K+FAIkOhCfHncF8i1N1pk00pOVykNnqHTfFo3qFusHt0ZWgXVnnn4pYdXqZNoDhvF BRE5Vm4k/k96Pw8HRx6Os6eFSRrlqGzRgqsu86FekxusXB9UGv4lJhtU/J+8MRWsh22K718s DbQnABicGKFz1qQlWvcf59oTByhLINJCBt1WXl+TzJDXepr3QSkqmK41dO9Hob97C9dMiK8A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIAIbDBYhBBIbWHTWu6/9Y1dzdDdGo6CJAfUbBQJhUnLyAAoJEDdGo6CJ AfUbVHIQAKSWw620vPhR3A/njU2z77F3z/Jk+HTKdE3fIyWSWdkYN7CBFL0NguOMP30WZ+qE sJhZu7T5hf251MwQUUt27xlfnKYOmQs7CqONlXuXlGZI6WufrUjxNcVz+5gJsqvUWuuJWsgg sDmE92IBnfG/f81fPHWQyfr/SF4wYDMyoFp5xCCQpp1zB63iuFvvrhxBkEHzmbRtVDOhl0Xp BVEDR1w3QRACw9QJD/KM05Czv9JNQYlwinWO/OaQ9cMlUpKLgswUPg9IZ5vucxScfuAUA5uC B1jlAQ8ZPlVukBmbEv5RGOv+lpuEbA3YDMVtEeH4YMFbjt/+vH3Cr2vTbp5JlpByLburJEH0 WXZLUawEfUsZvVwpOuJK75vaa2HYXee+Cb3iCIzwfIfctdlqzUcbGRczlRNM59hpvj4z29Gh 3kAxVHItAYq54ikxQ9l4hQ8s9sLYPbX/WtcBxNX8crBSw0FLnmzGleVEtBHyqtt5CLzQNgrj GYWl1vKDUmRPw1CdZ1c+fMN9CY11jOM5B5ZnqZWfDeVYO2iJ5SuvTycChexCb8WYn1bdCBIo bBtga2RBXbVt4Mh9E4owsszefn51MwfjXxB20Fc5k3GU1AVpTCMs3ayYCzo0b2pvEvdjtDcA CYLEFPWgaFX9iQAM/CDfKvTtvgGWpqtCL2raq/mQoJEU Message-ID: <7d0efea3-8791-5f98-1313-8a59e5f7f7c4@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 20:55:33 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8396760.T7Z3S40VBb@rogueboard> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 0971bdc5-e2ce-45de-9878-a86c4b50146c X-Archives-Hash: aa225b1d0724bc192e1893c386496787 Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 23:37:15 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Sunday, 23 June 2024 13:19:18 BST Dale wrote: >>>> That's my thinking. The only benefit to reinstalling is correcting the >>>> partition boo boo. >>> What in particular are you referring to? I thought you created an ESP, / >>> and /home partitions, if I recall. >> I was thinking the EFI partition, ef02, and /boot were the same >> partition. I only created one that was huge. I made the ef02 partition >> 8GBs I think when 8MBs would have been more than enough from what I've >> read. > OK, the "EFI System Partition" is type ef00. You need this partition type to > be able to boot a UEFI MoBo using its (BIOS) firmware. This is where GRUB, or > any other boot manager will install its UEFI executable image. > > ef02 is the partition code type for the "BIOS Boot Partition". You do NOT > need one of these, since you are not trying to boot a GPT disk on a legacy > BIOS MoBo. > > Your new /boot partition can be a normal linux partition, type 8300 and you > can format this as ext2/3/4, or whatever GRUB can read. > I thought it was ef02.  I think it is in the install guide anyway.  Good to know it is ef00 for the efi partition tho.  Less chance of me messing that up.  LOL >> I kinda like /boot on its own partition. If /boot gets corrupted >> somehow, I can get the kernel and config again from /usr/src/linux. >> Building the init thingy again is trivial. So is reinstalling grub. If >> I were to lose root somehow, I'd have to reinstall but I got the kernel >> and its config file. It ain't much but it's something. As it is, /boot >> is on the same partition as root. If root goes bad, all is lost, except >> for any backup copies I might have. If I redo the install, I'd have a >> EFI partition and a separate /boot partition as well. The EFI would be >> like 8MBs or so and the /boot partition would be ext2 and 8GBs or so. >> Plenty of room for expansion. > I see. I don't think you need to redo the install. All you need to do is: > > 1. Back up the ESP contents, just in case. > 2. Shrink the ESP partition, down to a reasonable size. 500M or 1G would be > more than enough. > 3. Create a new partition, say ~7G in the space your just freed up, of type > 8300. > 4. Check if the content of the ESP fs is intact (it should be, but we're > talking about FAT here) and if not reformat as FAT32 and copy over the files > from the ESP backup. > 5. Format the new /boot partition and copy over the files from your current / > boot tdirectory to the new /boot partition you created. > 6. Adjust your fstab and reboot. > > NOTE: The GPT partition numbering order will be messed up, but this does not > alter their functionality. If it annoys you, then use gdisk to re-order them. Oh, I'd mess that up quick.  o_O  > >> I saved messages, sddm log and the Xorg log. Honestly tho, they will be >> different because the live DVD uses the kernel drivers, nouveau, where I >> use Nvidia. Still, I got them anyway. >> >> Several years ago, I took the CPU cooler off my main rig. I dunked the >> fin part into some heavy duty cleaner that cleans off dirt and dust. >> They wasn't to bad really since I blow them clean with compressed air >> from my compressor pretty regular. Still, it looked new when I was >> done. I used alcohol and a toothbrush to clean the old paste off of the >> base. The original paste was what came with the CPU I think. I'm >> pretty sure I put Arctic Silver on the second time. I can't remember >> the exact amount but it did cool better after a few updates and some >> compiling. I don't know if it was the fin cleaning or the thermal paste >> or both tho. I think Arctic Silver is still considered a good brand and >> very good product. I'm pretty sure it never dries out. Even some >> cheaper generic brands are quite good. > Ha! I thought my low temperatures were too good to be true! The Mobo had > lost its settings (it reminds me I need to replace the CMOS battery) and > consequently the CPU was underclocked. I reconfigured everything and on a > second run the temperature was cooler, but only by 2-3°C cooler. Still, > grateful for small mercies. :-) > Well, it being done likely makes you feel better anyway.  You know it is fresh and should be good for a while.  >> I'm going to compare some data between the Gentoo live DVD and my >> install. If I don't see something obvious, I'm going to fix my >> partition boo boo with a fresh start. While at it. What is the best >> way to wipe the partition data from a m.2 stick? They not spinning rust >> so don't want to try to dd or use shred on the whole thing. Doesn't >> gdisk have a wipe partition option? Curious what you think is the best >> way to do that. Don't want to shorten the life of my m.2 stick. > In this case do not reinstall. Most of it, if not all, would be unnecessarily > deleting and rewriting the same data. > > gdisk can destroy all the GPT data structures on a disk. Press x, then z. > However, I suggest you don't this. Use Gparted to shrink your ESP and add a > new partition for /boot as I explained above. The focus on sorting out your > graphic card. Well, I'm hoping that it will fix whatever I missed before.  I'm sure I missed something but I have no idea what.  I've tried everything I can think of.  Given it all works with the Gentoo live DVD and all, it has to be a bad install somehow.  I just don't know what I missed.  If I can't figure out how to fix the current install, then maybe starting over is a possible fix.  I'm wanting to finish testing and then switch out the rig.  Then new rig becomes main rig.  Old main rig becomes, a NAS box maybe??? At least this CPU has the aes encryption support.  Current NAS box doesn't.  Oh, you notice the name I gave it?  Gentoo-1.  My first rig was named smoker.  At the time, it was smoking fast.  Current rig is fireball.  It is faster than first rig.  I ran out of names that were reasonably short and made sense.  I got tired of trying to figure out one so I named it Gentoo-1.  Now to ponder what comes next.  Dale :-)  :-)