From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mb69c-0005lC-JT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:13:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C500CE02BA; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com (mail-gx0-f220.google.com [209.85.217.220]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98621E02BA for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so13249186gxk.10 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:13:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=EYJUayNfgY5OtuQiF+qmKdJgIl1aF+F15edg2b0+9Uw=; b=eunnTrDHBCiZ6eSpjpQp0k7CuENMeVBOY9TAeIfK/HfZBpSMrfRDEsIDVlxB710mMB nJ1oomnzRQwnE5RSvsijDX+e31Rza5j/mYAvDd4Vt/KJBhOeTomjpke9WJIajAzn100C jqStSw5zPvRGwzrPVmemIPFQPOSJFGo9nICP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=VD9k7IeD7blB+osema95M/udQi6u5FtEXv4IkfOr/2P2/y4COj7zfBkPpmtyRvs31F sMDeB24u12W6LJblNST/yFab4tc3hhtrdUbMYyp/kiY8TRIBNzFpHjt3wjm56H/QNQYT 9eSMmnPPKQRfxUpB+HYNm5xIFCZiLJWnwagnw= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.37.73 with SMTP id w9mr2096555ibd.2.1250054018077; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:13:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alan E. Davis" Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000 Message-ID: <7bef1f890908112213r5a7e08a4k7703ca14a9d9bcfb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Knock on wood To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354333096b296960470eae1d2 X-Archives-Salt: d723423c-230f-4a2e-b6ea-8197c9918666 X-Archives-Hash: da20e48b74512b3ac763de505e40161c --002354333096b296960470eae1d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure that this system has been performing admirably well this time around, in comparison with earlier installations. None of the earlier installations were unacceptable, in fact, Gentoo remained my favorite. I moved to Ubuntu because maintainance of the Gentoo boxes was much more time consuming. I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at distrowatch. I've watched as the best documentation EVER on gentoo wiki has fallen off the edge of the world---indeed, I am grief-stricken and perplexed about that. I had to debate with myself about whether to go back to Gentoo. Ubuntu had played to many tricks on me, at great personal cost. I finally made the leap, and it was a soft landing indeed. I scoffed at the email from this list saying that emerge -uDva world and revdep-rebuild problems were not normal! I had posted that I had NEVER (in a couple of years or more of Gentoo use) gotten all the way through a maintainance cycle of emerge -uDva --newuse world, revdep-rebuild, and emerge --depclean. I never had (or perhaps very, very seldom), and I spent a lot of time working on it. Still the system more or less worked. Now, however, I have not had any such problem, or maybe I should say, the one or two times I have it was easy to fiigure things out. This is a major turnaround. Is it because I'm more experienced, or perhaps more cautious? I am running ~amd64, and have several overlays installed under layman. I don't know, but I tend to think the distribution is more mature. Perhaps this isn't the best place to put a word of thanks. It's the best I will do for now. Thank you to all the developers and all the list people who have consistently given the highest and most professional level of assistance to a rather clueless user. And never a cranky wine, like on other lists, never any complaint. This is typical, and always has been with Gentoo's community. I hope that at some point I can help with at least the documentation, although I surely don't wish to pollute the space of the best docs (IMHO) in the linux community. Go figure: the popularity figures plunge, but the distro just gets better and better. Viva Gentoo... Now I can go and get lost in the upgrade of gcc. Alan Davis Alan Davis You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. ----Richard Feynman --002354333096b296960470eae1d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of month= s now since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure = that this system has been performing admirably well this time around, in co= mparison with earlier installations.=A0 None of the earlier installations w= ere unacceptable, in fact, Gentoo remained my favorite.=A0 I moved to Ubunt= u because maintainance of the Gentoo boxes was much more time consuming.=A0=

I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example = at distrowatch.=A0 I've watched as the best documentation EVER on gento= o wiki has fallen off the edge of the world---indeed, I am grief-stricken a= nd perplexed about that.=A0 I had to debate with myself about whether to go= back to Gentoo.=A0 Ubuntu had played to many tricks on me, at great person= al cost.=A0 I finally made the leap, and it was a soft landing indeed.

I scoffed at the email from this list saying that =A0 emerge -uDva worl= d and revdep-rebuild problems were not normal!=A0 I had posted that I had N= EVER (in a couple of years or more of Gentoo use) gotten all the way throug= h a maintainance cycle of emerge -uDva --newuse world, revdep-rebuild, and = emerge --depclean.=A0 I never had (or perhaps very, very seldom), and I spe= nt a lot of time working on it.=A0 Still the system more or less worked.=A0=

Now, however, I have not had any such problem, or maybe I should say, t= he one or two times I have it was easy to fiigure things out.=A0 This is a = major turnaround.=A0

Is it because I'm more experienced, or per= haps more cautious?=A0 I am running ~amd64, and have several overlays insta= lled under layman.=A0 I don't know, but I tend to think the distributio= n is more mature.=A0

Perhaps this isn't the best place to put a word of thanks.=A0 It= 9;s the best I will do for now.=A0 Thank you to all the developers and all = the list people who have consistently given the highest and most profession= al level of assistance to a rather clueless user.=A0 And never a cranky win= e, like on other lists, never any complaint.=A0 This is typical, and always= has been with Gentoo's community.

I hope that at some point I can help with at least the documentation, a= lthough I surely don't wish to pollute the space of the best docs (IMHO= ) in the linux community.=A0

Go figure: the popularity figures plun= ge, but the distro just gets better and better.=A0 Viva Gentoo...

Now I can go and get lost in the upgrade of gcc.

Alan Davis
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Alan Davis

You can know the name of a bird in a= ll the languages of the world, =A0but when you're finished, you'll = know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the= bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts.

=A0 =A0----Richard Feynman
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