From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MKBdA-0005fV-QY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:38:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26E82E034C; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f181.google.com (mail-pz0-f181.google.com [209.85.222.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D75E034C for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk11 with SMTP id 11so5245pzk.32 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:38:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=xx6Oo9RJ5LVpqF9MrBeGFProPTGfzRfm0BTE1AIqXm4=; b=tHvaZeTp/LQWDqbpKtxGWQECryAecLQ5DUgj2OpC5iMO5lsa5ft6nQeb3OJAqAwkYA 8kZw+7fZ4vkOOdsOk2f3FfVo8vtP7MfBNbxFOM4u/w8dc16biRlzwc01WZ6BF+jc9+tf Q4M7QZCOuo4UPlKUhqzlO2wNCTNUvjDXcFQlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ds8kMU0Pe8IbwXME8UT9Wzxok+XGF+TfwGeUXVRlUvirZbbeBGKnl6Le+sRGZ7twhY z3gLhZnSm0LS5y9yX9PRGuZI6F9hTBxhO1paJRS/DO2q9y5GJ+nGb44OJtDoRpjRbvnZ sEpg9pdv2VVe4eAdYIekFk90hKilKey0SPONM= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.51.1 with SMTP id y1mr1334826wfy.112.1246023494477; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:38:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alan E. Davis" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:37:53 +1000 Message-ID: <7bef1f890906260637u1cc88913k714618744a26401d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Seek advice: converting Sabayon to Gentoo ? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd20ddcc529a5046d4073ac X-Archives-Salt: 92565e52-935e-4246-a560-c5fce559c771 X-Archives-Hash: 2986e1a24e47ecbeaae591fa28d6de74 --000e0cd20ddcc529a5046d4073ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hope not to bother, but ask advice about converting a nominally successful Sabayon install to Gentoo. I've been away from Gentoo for a while, found Ubuntu a joy if for no other reason than to have time to do what I want to use my system for. I had found Gentoo required an inordinant amount of time to maintain, and in several installs, I have always been drawn away by the siren call of newer and better unstable packages: eventually the systems became inconsistent enough that I had to bail out. I tried all kinds of make world, etc., tricks and tips. Have NEVER had an emerge update to world go completely well. Maybe one of the problems is the number of packages I install. I just cannot spend three hours a day maintaining a system! Two serious problems for me were Emacs as done for Ubuntu, and the lack of TeXlive 2008. But Ubuntu has some serious shortcomings, and some not so serious ones. I ended up installing Sabayon 4.1, and it's ok. Had some trouble with "equo": still don't really understand what it does, but I eventually have been using emerge and just installing software of my choosing. The experience has been somewhat elevating, in that none of the problems I've encountered over the past week have been insurmountable. Meanwhile I am brushing up on Gentoo installation methods, with an eye to being ready if the time comes ... So what I am asking this list is about the differences and similarities between Sabayon and Gentoo. Years ago, I did the same thing, but in a short time, my system was hosed when I started using emerge. This time, seemingly I have better luck, but I have not installed packages. May I request pointers to useful information on this topic? (The conversion of a modern Sabayon install to Gentoo)? Gentoo makes the most sense to me. But Sabayon already has the hardware under control. Thank you, Alan Alan Davis "...can the human soul be glimpsed through a microscope? Maybe, but you'd definitely need one of those very good ones with two eyepieces." -- Woody Allen, quoted by B. A. Palevitz --000e0cd20ddcc529a5046d4073ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hope not to bother, but ask advice about converting a nominally successful= =A0 Sabayon install to Gentoo.

I've been away from Gentoo for a = while, found Ubuntu a joy if for no other reason than to have time to do wh= at I want to use my system for.=A0 I had found Gentoo required an inordinan= t amount of time to maintain, and in several installs, I have always been d= rawn away by the siren call of newer and better unstable packages: eventual= ly the systems became inconsistent enough that I had to bail out.=A0 I trie= d all kinds of make world, etc., tricks and tips.=A0 Have NEVER had an emer= ge update to world go completely well.=A0 Maybe one of the problems is the = number of packages I install.=A0 I just cannot spend three hours a day main= taining a system!=A0=A0

Two serious problems for me were Emacs as done for Ubuntu, and the lack= of TeXlive 2008.=A0

But Ubuntu has some serious shortcomings, and = some not so serious ones.=A0 I ended up installing Sabayon 4.1, and it'= s ok.=A0 Had some trouble with "equo": still don't really und= erstand what it does, but I eventually have been using emerge and just inst= alling software of my choosing.=A0 The experience has been somewhat elevati= ng, in that none of the problems I've encountered over the past week ha= ve been insurmountable.=A0

Meanwhile I am brushing up on Gentoo installation methods, with an eye = to being ready if the time comes ...=A0=A0

So what I am asking this= list is about the differences and similarities between Sabayon and Gentoo.= =A0 Years ago, I did the same thing, but in a short time, my system was hos= ed when I started using emerge.=A0 This time, seemingly I have better luck,= but I have not installed packages.=A0

May I request pointers to useful information on this topic?=A0 (The con= version of a modern Sabayon install to Gentoo)?

Gentoo makes the mos= t sense to me.=A0 But Sabayon already has the hardware under control.
Thank you,

Alan


Alan Davis

".= ..can the human soul be glimpsed through a microscope? Maybe, but you'd= definitely need one of those very good ones with two eyepieces."

=A0 =A0-- Woody Allen, quoted by B. A. Palevitz
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