From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKv1n-0006so-FV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:02:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76DF2E00DF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.156]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C353E00DF for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so468336ywm.46 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/hGdZ0uLrSqgJXiR38xSPv3W6jFYmVxkY5LJxfCHWXI=; b=hBfvDCgo2o1y4jzLEiXtEgXRepdzuz5epFoFnyYVrQNyQt6i1ATxi4CvgHIIB18Qp0 VpM2BOCmhU+7ILtiYPBrIonpVgjpcoax1a8Vf6uBhg/mHsPN37fHkJUvAcrqpm1uR14o zFvzPemcv/B4u3Y1KbusK5LPkR6WS8Hid6si8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=TzTABx9HMYMiAi7dn4zVOwpcNNCrTY8ccUSxRE0d4oIuxBEl8nQlUFIL1Oi7K7SuRl x7k8FDK+uqkb4q4h+Z3cr/9Rix6V6426X15NM+Gix3nPYNa43vpIYb3bahCG+xG1Bvmb CvI+6q1ulh5nzNZpp/sW9Rs7f0dj8MlmmCsv8= Received: by 10.142.86.7 with SMTP id j7mr1331756wfb.78.1216645328263; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.161.14 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7bef1f890807210602g242be7d1v50ed694dfe0e7e9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:02:08 +1000 From: "Alan E. Davis" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A few questions on trying to install In-Reply-To: <20080721124609.41fa1d12@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7bef1f890807202247q79d4568sa8b9e6ab11499e43@mail.gmail.com> <200807211109.09861.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <20080721120924.08311dad@digimed.co.uk> <200807211331.51841.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <20080721124609.41fa1d12@digimed.co.uk> X-Archives-Salt: 6ee7ebcf-d571-47bf-aee2-20ad52f0c4af X-Archives-Hash: 99a850e79134cbf3c24575404acd1526 Thank you for some thoughtful suggestions. I have just gotten a 500GB SATA drive, intending to back up all of my data. What I fear most about LVM is the possibility of losing the data somehow. I may be too yesterday, but I sense that ordinary partitions (at least "ordinary" to me) will be more portable. I may want to unpack my system, and carry my Drives with me. I've been trying to work around the same /home/USER directories for several years. I have archived them from time to time when they have gotten too crazy. And (correct me if I'm wrong) I've become some kind of intimidated about using the same directory and username on a new install, so I generally end up copying all the pieces over. Outside of this possibly irrational fear that LVM mayn't be portable, I actually did delete an entire install once that was on LVM, but that was due to my own ignorance. I am no less ignorant now, but if my fears about portability can be allayed, I would be willing to try. And learn. Be that as it may, I have just cleansed my 74GB 10000RPM drive, and look forward to installing on this, and hanging various directories off of this. Assuming, for now, I am only going to be using some unexotic partitioning system, which partitions will be most advantageously situated on this fast drive? I am thinking along these lines: FAST PARTITION / /boot /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/ part of home with well-used files /tmp? I have a lot of ARCHIVED data that should be on a separate partition and this could be slow. I actually find it makes quite a bit of difference, the speed difference. I have looked around for comments about this strategy. Maybe if LVM is indeed portable, this could be incorporated into the scheme. Abut Grub issues: I may try to edit the grub that was installed by Ubuntu. However, one of the serious issues I have encountered with Ubuntu Hardy Heron has been a capricious device assignment scheme that is not consistent from install to install. And I had to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to the correct partition to boot from because even grub didn't get it right out of the box! After three or four ubuntu installs, ubuntu wouldn't touch grub anymore, so I booted a beta Gentoo 2008.0 and was able to rectify the master boot record. Maybe my motherboard is crazy---an ASUS M2N-E. Thank you again. I'm already feeling better about getting this done. Alan