From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-68963-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1ISR2j-0002uw-Q0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:33:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l845Q9jV029892; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:26:09 GMT Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l845LuGm025125 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:21:56 GMT Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so2282824mue for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:21:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nxQblyk124dMjTIUDd65nsWBfE1nOQ/plpJmFAqYr4OjKiRDYAAYQEELBdcJMJIpi+Tr8aTAGEM7zzxym+Q+xG7/UPgC+0mr4iW6Y0sI14yKoP54PtMIJeCA1Fm9/2ztMY9BGSFtHF7m4ZF5wLlpaDtlLHkPf2pR5zFnAKSwAdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i8GnyQC95XDVi1sZr6hCk2Zz9dAtP3tunX6QNd1i5Nl7feZiP7+uLRlIafOj7e0IkNBCm+Vu2AamuROo046/vAkr97tYxR2P+XSGpjHrwG6L8P5JQviihb65t9nCiXUz113QeKEKfSu/eZIvTeQK63ynlRBPr3GrfhLpMisw7Kk= Received: by 10.86.77.5 with SMTP id z5mr4017363fga.1188883315780; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.95.11 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7bef1f890709032221r3d5d14bbkfe9efc2a870552ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:21:55 +1000 From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] MCE in kernel In-Reply-To: <20070903172926.61aa44ed@pascal.spore.ath.cx> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7382_33145958.1188883315745" References: <7bef1f890708311808p10174631o47c80e94964cac96@mail.gmail.com> <20070903141357.2820d521@pascal.spore.ath.cx> <7bef1f890709031351g44df6073n1a2d6b49fba22216@mail.gmail.com> <20070903172926.61aa44ed@pascal.spore.ath.cx> X-Archives-Salt: 78efdafa-9dc3-4c23-aa64-3f0872c2d340 X-Archives-Hash: 6b04b9e464a1c14fc1e963a629c13070 ------=_Part_7382_33145958.1188883315745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thank you Dan: I'll look into this. Time to tear the old box apart again. Thank you again. Alan On 9/4/07, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 06:51:38 +1000 > "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think your solution is the better one, though. > > > > I did follow the instructions of the boot messages and installed an > > mce log translation utility, but I didn't make sense of what to do > > with it. > > The thing is, you are only masking symptoms. There may be something > wrong, and perhaps you could save a lot of work later by fixing a > problem before it turns catastrophic. > > from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Check_Exception > > A Machine Check Exception, also called MCE, is a computer hardware > error which occurs when a computer's central processing unit detects an > unrecoverable hardware problem. > > Normal causes for MCE errors are overheating and/or incorrect hardware > installation. Overheating can cause electrons to become more animated > and thus escape from the silicon tracks, resulting in corrupted data. > Some specific manually induced causes could be: > > Overclocking (naturally increases heat output) > > Poorly fitted heatsink/computer fans (the same problem can happen with > excessive dust in the CPU fan) > > Computer software can also cause errors in this way (normally by > corrupting data they are reading or writing). For example: > > -Software performing read or write operations to non-existent memory > regions which leads to confusion for the processor and/or the system > bus. > > 3rd party programs > > mcelog > mcelog is a Linux program to decode MCE's on x86-64 processors > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan lngndvs@gmail.com "An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need for one non-existent." ---Lord Raleigh (aka John William Strutt), or else his son, ------=_Part_7382_33145958.1188883315745 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thank you Dan:<br><br>I'll look into this. Time to tear the old box apart again. <br><br>Thank you again.<br><br>Alan<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dan Farrell</b> <<a href="mailto:dan@spore.ath.cx"> dan@spore.ath.cx</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 06:51:38 +1000<br>"Alan E. Davis" < <a href="mailto:lngndvs@gmail.com">lngndvs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I think your solution is the better one, though.<br>><br>> I did follow the instructions of the boot messages and installed an<br>> mce log translation utility, but I didn't make sense of what to do <br>> with it.<br><br>The thing is, you are only masking symptoms. There may be something<br>wrong, and perhaps you could save a lot of work later by fixing a<br>problem before it turns catastrophic.<br><br>from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Check_Exception"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Check_Exception</a><br><br>A Machine Check Exception, also called MCE, is a computer hardware<br>error which occurs when a computer's central processing unit detects an<br>unrecoverable hardware problem. <br><br>Normal causes for MCE errors are overheating and/or incorrect hardware<br>installation. Overheating can cause electrons to become more animated<br>and thus escape from the silicon tracks, resulting in corrupted data. <br>Some specific manually induced causes could be:<br><br>Overclocking (naturally increases heat output)<br><br>Poorly fitted heatsink/computer fans (the same problem can happen with<br>excessive dust in the CPU fan)<br> <br>Computer software can also cause errors in this way (normally by<br>corrupting data they are reading or writing). For example:<br><br>-Software performing read or write operations to non-existent memory<br>regions which leads to confusion for the processor and/or the system <br>bus.<br><br>3rd party programs<br><br>mcelog<br> mcelog is a Linux program to decode MCE's on x86-64 processors<br><br>--<br><a href="mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org">gentoo-user@gentoo.org</a> mailing list<br><br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan <a href="mailto:lngndvs@gmail.com">lngndvs@gmail.com</a> <br><br>"An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need for one non-existent." <br> ---Lord Raleigh (aka John William Strutt), or else his son, ------=_Part_7382_33145958.1188883315745-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list