From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GNi7C-0002o5-5K for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:42:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8E3fHaf010349; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:41:17 GMT Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8E3Y0xN002542 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:34:01 GMT Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n1so1094248nzf for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:34:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d5ZeUTXppiphCxuLpo/chLUcZ03xy6OcVOD5GOrRSRh3uYfKbFVE1W4iuWtKdpG/5LXQlRjbdSVdp200UWt+UXx356lSromfkg6zkCC8Qb7Ht8M6SCNgEwOI1zwvDqNzT78vKpeD0fMoJ3EddXnIpxVDCRe+xTUsH5KCQiza4ss= Received: by 10.65.219.1 with SMTP id w1mr9506884qbq; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.84.3 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7bef1f890609132034u2a2404bs5fe0970bff792e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:34:00 +0000 From: "Alan E. Davis" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Update or Install again? Testing vs. stable? Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Archives-Salt: 827eeb38-ea5d-41c4-b757-9b76b5692843 X-Archives-Hash: 8db4956a9f5bc777107e30feae6c191a I have questions (for one of my machines, running ~amd64) whether it is worth it to update/upgrade or whether to reinstall from scratch. Another machine that melted down three months ago is being rebuilt with a new motherboard, and new technology; I am installing from scratch for obvious reasons in this case; but I would like to solicit comments about my proposal to use only a straight stable version. I'll try to be brief, but I beg in advance the indulgence of the list for an overlength posting. And I apologize for going over territory once again that has been covered elsewhere. My ~amd64 machine has an extremely large number of packages, many of them for multimedia viewing, dvd burning, editing dvds, graphics, latex---a large variety of applications many of them which can be used simultaneously at any given time. The system is amazing, and I suspect that any other distro would fall over under this diversity of processes. In particular, I have had good success editing videos with avidemux---but only with the most up to date overlay! The machine has gotten tangled into a knot that seems to be almost impossible to get all the way up to date at one time. At least for me. I received amazingly clear and lucid advice on how to get up to date, upgrade the compiler, and rebuild, revdep-rebuild, etc., etc.; but with my unreliable connectivity over the summer, I was unable to get the machine to the absolutely clean state to start that process. It took a tremendous about of time to setup all of these packages; maintainence of the system also demands not only a fast network connection, but also a lot of time. It's not going to be easy to reinstall this system in it's current form. Perhaps it's necessary, however. The usual advice about updating is something like "it isn't necessary; there is no such thing as versions with Gentoo". But with at least three major upgrade bugs to overcome (xorg-x11 / nvidia-drivers; compiler upgrades; revdep-rebuild failures; changes in network administration, to name a few issues) I wonder whether it isn't just as easy to install afresh. Because my time is taken up with teaching and leftover time should be spent on science, I don't have unlimited time for system maintainence Because one of my machines melted down in June, I am preparing to reinstall Gentoo. My connectivity has been sporadic over the summer; maybe it's improving; we might get a DSL soon at home. My home machine was installed and maintained almost exclusively over a dialup connection. -- Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan lngndvs@gmail.com 1-670-256-2043 I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it. --------Richard Stallman -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list