From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1F064a-0006z0-B7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:53:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k0KNmOJE024121; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:48:24 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0KNiJoW023785 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:44:20 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x3so613473nzd for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:44:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TNmhjy1D7ykrvv1hh6gCU+1Fn4DpVwnCP2tF1592SOAfZ3ry+4ofgm2xeSHBjTWFTOS4CaHRxF6IHSDQZ3dHLCYNkdWsy4cBpl1V/lm3raiZ0aoy1ieQo/9nE2ze6+Dr6scLtrd2+LMSOFOkudP5YMABOLgKWpbN5Y8kOFJSNAg= Received: by 10.64.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr1968698qbf; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.199.7 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:44:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7bef1f890601201544x7667c567l661c3a88994fd977@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:44:19 +1000 From: "Alan E. Davis" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE? In-Reply-To: <8f5ca2210601201517i235accb7rcfc0857f117a640d@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1137748213.12685.7.camel@localhost> <8f5ca2210601201517i235accb7rcfc0857f117a640d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k0KNiJoW023785 X-Archives-Salt: 959a9f08-0085-4389-bf02-b050832c8c49 X-Archives-Hash: 8d8dd9cf8714b9c6213c301954f59e25 On 1/21/06, Mike Owen wrote: > even go back to Afterstep or Enlightenment, but for now kde-3.5 works > for me. > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday installing e17 on two of three machines. It is smaller than Kde, but background is 20% of cpu . Buggy. Beautiful. A PITA to configure, and menus suck. I don't think I'll be there long. I liked enlightenment .16 except I guess I really do need icons to remind me of what I've got on the system, and good menus. I still haven't decided to dump e17 for real, but in looking back, I did note how heavy KDE 3.5 is. Gnome: my employers already treat me like a child; I need options and flexibility. KDE is ugly IMHO: I blew that windows-like pop stand years ago. However, for some reason KDE developers in some, but NOT ALL cases, seem to wind up with a more polished package. Compare Kalzium and gperiodic. On really good days, I fire up fluxbox or a console. The bottom line on GUIs is ease of use. The tradeoff is flexibility and options. Nautilus works nicely, and for the first time I am using a GUI file manager for large scale reorganization of my filesystems. But one glaring deficiency keeps hitting me in the face---you can't do links with them. Noone has figured out how to make links user friendly? It's too complicated for the end user? So using a graphic user interface on a Unix-like system has led GNU/Linux back toward the idiot proof pseudo operating system: like MS-DOG being an idiotproofed unix-like system. Comments after having recently installed a bunch of GUI setups. Alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list