Followup: Oh, it work, ok... until I rebooted. Then it didn't work for ordinary (non-super users) to #wvdial anymore. Apparently, using udev and sysfs, etc., the devices are made on boot. Funny, that I had to run MAKEDEV to make the higher numbered nodes, like /dev/ttyS14, where my modem resides. (The modem is not at this place on one of the other systems I was playing around with---Knoppix, I think). I am now going to learn udev. I want to anyway: I like the way Ubuntu jumps into action when a flash drive or a printer is plugged in, and so do my GNU/Linux doubting friends :-). So far, it looks like rules for creating the device nodes include permissions components. I will get there eventually. Does anyone know, right off hand, though, how to produce a rule to set up /dev/ttyS14 (/dev/tts/14 in the new nomenclature) with permissions to allow dialup by anyone in group dialout? It works to just do the following after booting: # chmod o+rw /dev/tts # chmod 0+rw /dev/tts/14 Is this a security issue? Thanks for the advices so far. Alan Davis On 11/28/05, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > Ok: success! After changing the permissions a a BUNCH of files, and > ownerships, and even generating new groups (ppp), finally, when I changed > the ownership of /etc/wvdial to root:dialout, the setup works! > > Isn't that always the way? When I finally have posted and given up, a > new option occurs to me that works! > > Thank you to everyone who made suggestions. > > Alan Davis > > On 11/28/05, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > > > I've been plunking around with this. I tried what may be a brute force > > method: change the permissions of /dev/ttyS14. But /dev/ttyS14 is a link to > > /dev/tts/14. I now see that is a devfs rendering? I thought I do not have > > support for devfs, and I am trying to use something else. > > > > Anyway, is it possible my problems are related to this issue? > > > > I see that the "Cannot open /dev/ttyS14: device or resource busy" > > message is a common one. And there are almost as many proposed solutions as > > there are instances. There surely would be an easy way to do such a simple > > thing? Nothing works for me. > > > > Alan Davis > > > > > > On 11/28/05, Dale wrote: > > > > > > John J. Foster wrote: > > > > > > >On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:20:15PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Now wvdial, it dials out, then sits for a minute, then disconnects > > > with > > > >>the error that my password is wrong, which is crap because it is > > > >>correct. I only got wvdial to work once on another rig. It has > > > never > > > >>worked on this one though. Anybody have a clue on that one? I just > > > >>like to have options in case it pours instead of just a little > > > shower. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >Hi Dale - I had the same problem until I set > > > > > > > >Stupid Mode=yes in /etc/wvdial.conf. All was fine then. > > > > > > > >John > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that tip. I'll try that. I like to have as many back-ups > > > as > > > I can get. If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all. > > > Well, there is the exception of my girlfriend. She is the best thing, > > > person, to happen yet. > > > > > > Dale > > > :-) > > > > > > -- > > > To err is human, I'm most certainly human. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > >