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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------81B10CEAAF9A4CF47B3119F5" X-Archives-Salt: e6f98621-6ecc-4dbd-bd28-418f6ee61d13 X-Archives-Hash: 3ea3cdd897cce71d4d71892ad58dabcd This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------81B10CEAAF9A4CF47B3119F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Doing that was actually not much trouble.  I booted, changed > something just in case it rebooted and went back for some reason but > would change something on the screen.  Usually, I change the page on > the KDE welcome screen to like page 4 or something.  If it were to > restart the GUI or anything, it would go back to page 1.  Anyway, once > booted, I'd go do something else for a while.  Then when I came back, > shutdown, change port and repeat. > > > > To Micheal's point tho, I suspect the boot media I'm using is slow > enough, loading from a USB stick instead of a m.2 drive, that it also > is able to get the info needed, most likely from the monitor, and work > like it should.  This could literally be a system that is just going > to fast.  By the time the monitor gets the request, the computer has > already moved on except for those rare occasions where it works. > > > > I have a 2.5" SSD drive.  I actually mounted it in the system > already just not hooked up to power or data cables.  I could install > Kubuntu on that easily.  If I get the steam up, I just may do that.  > Between working on this new build, my sis-n-law being sick, I just had > to much going on for to long.  Just a bit ago I walked up a very steep > hill to take watermelons in the house for her.  I can walk up faster > than I can drive up.  No other powered vehicle I can use.  Car and > feet is all I got.  Still, that walk up the hill and carrying > watermelons up the steps took my energy level down a few more > notches.  Thank goodness for my meds.  At least my back isn't so angry > at me. > > > > I just hope this new monitor works out of the box, and doesn't get > damaged in shipping.  ;-) > > > > Dale > > > > :-)  :-) > > > > P. S.  I'm pretty sure the recent upgrade put my main rig on KDE6.  > I had some clashes with lxqt or something to the point I uninstalled > it, did the KDE update and then added lxqt? back.  I still had to work > out some issues.  So far, it is working OK.  No problems or anything > except for losing my weather thingy on the bottom panel.  I'm sure > that will be updated soon.  May do the same on the new rig if I get > time.  Not that I can test it or anything tho.  LOL > > My point about putting KDE on a drive and really running it is that > you can install all the non-standard drivers, which NVidia is part of, > which I'm not sure is totally supported when running in the Try It > mode from boot media. Once installed and booted from the SSD then > really use the system and figure out what's going on with these ports. > There is still a small possibility in my mind that this is something > about Quadro cards which were designed for a different market and that > possibly haven't been as well tested in the consumer or Gentoo arena.  > > You have a lot going on so ask questions if you need me. I'm always > lurking around somewhere. > > Cheers, > Mark I got up a little steam.  I hooked up the SSD drive and installed Kubuntu which went very fast.  It seems all those SSD type drives are really fast.  Anyway, when I booted up the first time, it went straight to KDE and it was like it should be, resolution, plasma and all.  Kubuntu isn't half bad.  I just like a source based distro.  Since it uses the nouveau drivers tho, I'm not to surprised it worked.  If they had worked this well on Gentoo, I would have used them.  Thing was awful tho.  I'll search around and see if I can figure out how to switch to nvidia drivers.  I figured out how to install the software to install software.  That sounds weird.  :/  Anyway, I found the nvidia drivers but wasn't sure what to do after they were installed.  There is no xorg.conf file.  I also tried to get some log info, all I found was Xorg and sddm.  We agree that sddm is working.  The Xorg file looked like one I posted from something else.  Not sure it would help to post that monster.  That's the update for now.  May work on it more later on.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------81B10CEAAF9A4CF47B3119F5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Knecht wrote:


On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Doing that was actually not much trouble.  I booted, changed something just in case it rebooted and went back for some reason but would change something on the screen.  Usually, I change the page on the KDE welcome screen to like page 4 or something.  If it were to restart the GUI or anything, it would go back to page 1.  Anyway, once booted, I'd go do something else for a while.  Then when I came back, shutdown, change port and repeat.
>
> To Micheal's point tho, I suspect the boot media I'm using is slow enough, loading from a USB stick instead of a m.2 drive, that it also is able to get the info needed, most likely from the monitor, and work like it should.  This could literally be a system that is just going to fast.  By the time the monitor gets the request, the computer has already moved on except for those rare occasions where it works.
>
> I have a 2.5" SSD drive.  I actually mounted it in the system already just not hooked up to power or data cables.  I could install Kubuntu on that easily.  If I get the steam up, I just may do that.  Between working on this new build, my sis-n-law being sick, I just had to much going on for to long.  Just a bit ago I walked up a very steep hill to take watermelons in the house for her.  I can walk up faster than I can drive up.  No other powered vehicle I can use.  Car and feet is all I got.  Still, that walk up the hill and carrying watermelons up the steps took my energy level down a few more notches.  Thank goodness for my meds.  At least my back isn't so angry at me.
>
> I just hope this new monitor works out of the box, and doesn't get damaged in shipping.  ;-)
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> P. S.  I'm pretty sure the recent upgrade put my main rig on KDE6.  I had some clashes with lxqt or something to the point I uninstalled it, did the KDE update and then added lxqt? back.  I still had to work out some issues.  So far, it is working OK.  No problems or anything except for losing my weather thingy on the bottom panel.  I'm sure that will be updated soon.  May do the same on the new rig if I get time.  Not that I can test it or anything tho.  LOL

My point about putting KDE on a drive and really running it is that you can install all the non-standard drivers, which NVidia is part of, which I'm not sure is totally supported when running in the Try It mode from boot media. Once installed and booted from the SSD then really use the system and figure out what's going on with these ports. There is still a small possibility in my mind that this is something about Quadro cards which were designed for a different market and that possibly haven't been as well tested in the consumer or Gentoo arena. 

You have a lot going on so ask questions if you need me. I'm always lurking around somewhere.

Cheers,
Mark

I got up a little steam.  I hooked up the SSD drive and installed Kubuntu which went very fast.  It seems all those SSD type drives are really fast.  Anyway, when I booted up the first time, it went straight to KDE and it was like it should be, resolution, plasma and all.  Kubuntu isn't half bad.  I just like a source based distro.  Since it uses the nouveau drivers tho, I'm not to surprised it worked.  If they had worked this well on Gentoo, I would have used them.  Thing was awful tho. 

I'll search around and see if I can figure out how to switch to nvidia drivers.  I figured out how to install the software to install software.  That sounds weird.  :/  Anyway, I found the nvidia drivers but wasn't sure what to do after they were installed.  There is no xorg.conf file. 

I also tried to get some log info, all I found was Xorg and sddm.  We agree that sddm is working.  The Xorg file looked like one I posted from something else.  Not sure it would help to post that monster. 

That's the update for now.  May work on it more later on. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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