From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R3NSs-0000yJ-44 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:31:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 143D521C370; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDC521C365 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.144] (helo=smtp13.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3NQQ-0004HU-Id for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:28:58 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp13.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3NQP-00065N-NT for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:28:57 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6935DED0 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:28:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zLG6wYQccFeg for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBF09635 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:28:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:28:55 +0200 Message-ID: <7883018.WRx51PO1Lc@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <2912076.plDkEdChM3@pc> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R3NQP-00065N-NT X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 1095b83446bccee990415723be004b08 On Monday, September 12, 2011 07:31:54 PM Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote= : > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer =20 wrote: > > On Monday, 12. September 2011 22:57:40 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:07:46 -0400 > >>=20 > >> Michael Mol wrote: > >> > No, it states that it's not solveable for the broadest set of > >> > cases (I > >> > hesitate to say 'universally') unless you can run arbitrary > >> > scripts > >> > which may be in /usr. > >> >=20 > >> > Consider it possible that nfsd is needed to mount /usr. The > >> > credentials needed for NFS to connect to the server are on an > >> > encrypted partition. The key for decrypting that partition is > >> > stored > >> > on a USB flash drive. The USB flash drive is formatted using a > >> > very > >> > recent version of NTFS. FUSE is necessary to read that flash > >> > drive's > >> > filesystem. > >>=20 > >> You do realize what you just did, right? > >>=20 > >> You ruined a wonderfully heated argument by inserting perfectly > >> valid facts. > >=20 > > I'd love to see the working initramfs for that scenario... > > and then the version dracut made :) >=20 > Not my use case, so maybe wrong, but: >=20 > USE=3D"crypt crypt-gpg nfs" emerge -v sys-kernel/dracut > dracut -H -m "crypt crypt-gpg nfs" --filesystems fuse >=20 > ...and maybe some -i flags to include the ntfs-3g binaries. Having to specify all these options doesn't show "dracut" to be very cl= ever to=20 me. It should automatically parse someones configuration and create the req= uired=20 init* to get to a "udev-god-supported-version". A tool that does that will make this less invasive. -- Joost