[gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?

[gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

When I run 'emerge -Davu world' I get this message (and the emerge
fails):

        !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "gnome-base/gnome-libs" have
        been masked.
        !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete
        your request:
        - gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (masked by: package.mask)
        # Saleem Abdulrasool <compnerd@gentoo.org> (16 Nov 2006)
        # GNOME 1.x Removal Mask (15 Dec 2006)

I assume that this means gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one
month. but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs:

        # equery depends gnome-base/gnome-libs
        [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-base/gnome-libs... ]
        x11-misc/gtkdiff-1.8.0-r2
        gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4
        gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37
        gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6
        app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6
        gnome-extra/guppi-0.40.3-r3
        dev-perl/gtk-perl-glade-0.7008-r1
        dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009-r2
        media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5
        dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.11-r1

Some of these packages have alternate version, what about the others?
Have those packages been made instantly obsolete? What exactl are users
supposed to do? I could find no guidance on the official Gentoo site,
nor on the Gentoo Wiki.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 masked?

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

[Subject corrected to "gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 masked?]

--- Vladimir

On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 21:28 -0800, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote:
> When I run 'emerge -Davu world' I get this message (and the emerge
> fails):
> 
>         !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "gnome-base/gnome-libs" have
>         been masked.
>         !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete
>         your request:
>         - gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (masked by: package.mask)
>         # Saleem Abdulrasool <compnerd@gentoo.org> (16 Nov 2006)
>         # GNOME 1.x Removal Mask (15 Dec 2006)
> 
> I assume that this means gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one
> month. but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs:
> 
>         # equery depends gnome-base/gnome-libs
>         [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-base/gnome-libs... ]
>         x11-misc/gtkdiff-1.8.0-r2
>         gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4
>         gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37
>         gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6
>         app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6
>         gnome-extra/guppi-0.40.3-r3
>         dev-perl/gtk-perl-glade-0.7008-r1
>         dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009-r2
>         media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5
>         dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.11-r1
> 
> Some of these packages have alternate version, what about the others?
> Have those packages been made instantly obsolete? What exactl are users
> supposed to do? I could find no guidance on the official Gentoo site,
> nor on the Gentoo Wiki.
> 
> --- Vladimir
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?

[Richard Fish]

On 11/18/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic <vgivanovic@comcast.net> wrote:
> I assume that this means gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one
> month. but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs:

Yes, all old gnome and gnome-dependant things are going away as they
are unmaintained.

>         # equery depends gnome-base/gnome-libs

equery depends is (nearly) useless.

>         [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-base/gnome-libs... ]
>         x11-misc/gtkdiff-1.8.0-r2

This hasn't seen an update in 5 years.  Are you actually using this?
If so, what does "ldd `which gtkdiff`" report?  It might be a mistake
and might actually depend on gtk2.  But given it's age, I sort of
doubt this.  If it does depend on gtk1, well, there are several other
graphical diff utilities in portage.  "emerge --searchdesc" or "eix
-S" are your friends here.

>         gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4
>         gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37
>         gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6
>         media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5

Old gnome stuff...do you actually use these, and if so, why haven't
you upgraded to the current version of gnome?

>         app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6

Just recompile this without the gnome USE flag.  From
/usr/portage/app-misc/gfontview/ChangeLog:

  17 Nov 2006; Saleem Abdulrasool <compnerd@gentoo.org>
  gfontview-0.5.0-r6.ebuild:
  Dropping gnome useflag for gnome-1.x removal

>         gnome-extra/guppi-0.40.3-r3

Lots of other plotting packages in portage.

>         dev-perl/gtk-perl-glade-0.7008-r1
>         dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009-r2

Do you actually use these, or are they installed as some other
dependancy?  Anyway, gtk2-perl and gtk2-gladexml exist for gtk2
applications.

>         dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.11-r1

This can just be remerged as well:

  17 Nov 2006; Saleem Abdulrasool <compnerd@gentoo.org> unixODBC-2.2.6.ebuild,
  unixODBC-2.2.6-r1.ebuild, unixODBC-2.2.8.ebuild, unixODBC-2.2.11.ebuild,
  unixODBC-2.2.11-r1.ebuild:
  Dropping gnome useflag for gnome-1.x removal

Same response as gtkdiff.  Do you actually use them?  If not, why do you care?

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?

[Richard Fish]

On 11/19/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> Same response as gtkdiff.  Do you actually use them?  If not, why do you care?

Apologies for the out-of-context line that should have been removed
before I clicked send.  Call it a case of "email Tourrettes".

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?

[Philip Webb]

061119 Richard Fish wrote:
> On 11/18/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic <vgivanovic@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I assume gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one month,
>> but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs:
>>   app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6
> Just recompile this without the gnome USE flag.

That didn't work for me: it still demands the '1' versions of Glib & Gtk+ ,
tho' not Gnome-libs.  The same for Dillo.
Does anyone know whether these other two are going away sometime too ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?

[Richard Fish]

On 11/19/06, Philip Webb <purslow@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 061119 Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 11/18/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic <vgivanovic@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> I assume gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one month,
> >> but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs:
> >>   app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6
> > Just recompile this without the gnome USE flag.
>
> That didn't work for me: it still demands the '1' versions of Glib & Gtk+ ,

Try sync'ing again, because the current package.mask [1] isn't masking
gtk+ or glib.

-Richard

[1] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/profiles/package.mask?view=markup
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 masked?

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 00:36 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
> Do you actually use them?  If not, why do you care?

No and maybe. I don't use gtkdiff, so I obviously don't care, but a lot
of the packages contain libraries. I don't know if I use them or not. Is
there an automated way of dealing with the package removal of
gnome-libs? Or is every user expected to go through the list of package
dependencies (direct and indirect), examine them, and make a decision
for each package?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 masked?

[Richard Fish]

On 11/19/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic <vgivanovic@comcast.net> wrote:
> No and maybe. I don't use gtkdiff, so I obviously don't care, but a lot
> of the packages contain libraries. I don't know if I use them or not.

Are these listed in your world (/var/lib/portage/world) file?  If so,
remove them, do an "emerge -Nuv world".  After that, emerge --depclean
--pretend will show you things that are not needed anymore.  And of
course, --pretend --tree is the best way of determining what wants to
pull in certain libraries.  So you can remove them, and run emerge -v
--pretend --tree world to determine what is pulling in these things.

> Or is every user expected to go through the list of package dependencies
> (direct and indirect), examine them, and make a decision for each package?

emerge --depclean can be used to clean out unneeded libraries, but
that won't work if your world file is polluted with a bunch of
unnecessary things.  So in that case, yeah, you will have to things
"manually".

-Richard
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