From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-50961-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1GNjSU-000087-FL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:08:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8E57Vom009405; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:07:31 GMT Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8E53ALu005230 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:03:10 GMT Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so3015228wxc for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tb3eCg3GGzD/+RqZDcV6tgH0+41bEXlRJXXQU+KUl7+Y+NfikSff8HJFsQy0LU6bp8DD4U36oLHUlt1oQtScogl9omGEtTY8auq2U43cPjhsvuVBdOpDal9AK0nnz9XKNq8/f2HT7a/qAmvgYnd1vLefvaB8giCumRZkQohC53U= Received: by 10.70.109.4 with SMTP id h4mr11814975wxc; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.110.1 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7573e9640609132203y30cd0d90m1e7cb1ef6c7265d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:03:09 -0700 From: "Richard Fish" <bigfish@asmallpond.org> Sender: richard.j.fish@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update or Install again? Testing vs. stable? In-Reply-To: <7bef1f890609132033m307ce494g82166dd530fa8fe2@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7bef1f890609132033m307ce494g82166dd530fa8fe2@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a793289fcc72049a X-Archives-Salt: 791e8885-24cb-4e04-8c5c-bcb90b85d780 X-Archives-Hash: 0371349921d39dbca898b29f29701047 On 9/13/06, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote: > It took a tremendous amount of time, months, to setup all of these > packages; maintenance of the system also demands not only a fast > network connection, but also a lot of time. It's not going to be easy > to reinstall this system in it's current form. Perhaps it's > necessary, however. I think at this point you have two options: 1. Reinstall the system using the curernt 2006.1 AMD media. Advantages: - you can use the GRP binary packages to do a quick update. - you avoid recompiling everything for the gcc update - updating to current should be a fairly small change Disadvantages: - You need to be sure to backup your configuration files, or you may lose something that took a long time to get right. - If you have/make a lot of changes to USE, you may have a lot of things that need to be rebuilt after you are "done" with the install. If you do this, be sure to backup your configuration files, especially /etc/portage, /etc/make.conf. Plus you probably want to keep /var/lib/portage/world as well. 2. Remove ~amd64 from keywords, and basically follow the gcc upgrade guide, since you probably need to udpate to gcc 4.1 anyway. Advantages: - It's relatively easy to see what things are going to be downgraded, so you can decide what needs to be added to package.keywords. - Your configuration files will be protected by CONFIG_PROTECT. Disadvantages: - You end up doing an emerge -e world, which is going to take quite a while to execute. >>From a general perspective on running some ~arch packages on an otherwise stable system, how successful that is usually depends on how many ~arch packages you have. ~arch packages tend to depend on other ~arch things, so there is a viral effect that leads some people to give up and use ~arch for the entire system. Using the ~cate-gory/package-ver.s.ion syntax can help here, as it only allows the ~arch keyword for specific versions or -r releases. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list