[gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[Alan E. Davis]

I'll throw two chickens in one pot.

I have recently installed ubuntu on another partition in the mainly
gentoo gateway laptop I've been running for over a year with great
success.  I have never had any wireless problems, using the ipw2200
centrino.  I've not changed kernels for a long while, still running
2.5.15 something.  Never a hiccough.

Then, after installing ubuntu, accessing a few access points, suddenly
the module for ipw2200 won't install consistently, and I get an error,
the most recent error was "-1" but there was another number earlier.

Well, at school today, confounding all this, the wireless access
points have now been set up with WPA keys.  Trying WEP keys with
Ubuntu was unsuccessful, after failling w/ gentoo altogether.  Then
when trying to run "/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start" again, as I've been
doing, there is no happiness, and I tracked down this failure to load
the module.  After a couple of tried, the module did, I think load,
but because of the WPA setup, I cannot figure out how to access the
net.  Back to ubuntu, back to gentoo---again module problems.  These
are firmware problems, failture to load firmware, not the ipw2200
module, sorry.

Ubuntu too, I cannot figure out how to use the WPA key.

Now I'm at a wifi access point cafe, and cannot get gentoo to work at
all, even with this unsecured site.  Ubuntu does work.

So my questions are how to get WPA to work, with both, and what the
heck is going on with the firmware?

I suspect that ubuntu loads firmware that is incompatible with gentoo.

Thanks for any help with any of the above.

Alan Davis

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[Richard Fish]

On 8/21/06, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suspect that ubuntu loads firmware that is incompatible with gentoo.

More likely you just don't have the right firmware installed under
gentoo.  Check the dmesg output after attempting to load the module,
and look for something about missing firmware.  It would also help us
to know if you are using the in-kernel drivers, or the external
net-wireless/ipw2200 package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[Alan E. Davis]

I am pretty sure I have the latest firmware installed---several
versions are installed.  I'll check whether I am using the package or
the kernel-based firmware.  I may upgrade the kernel, also.  This will
take a day or so.  Thanks (again),

Alan Davis

On 8/21/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> On 8/21/06, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I suspect that ubuntu loads firmware that is incompatible with gentoo.
>
> More likely you just don't have the right firmware installed under
> gentoo.  Check the dmesg output after attempting to load the module,
> and look for something about missing firmware.  It would also help us
> to know if you are using the in-kernel drivers, or the external
> net-wireless/ipw2200 package.
>
> -Richard
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> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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must share it with other people who like it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[W.Kenworthy]

I use the sourceforge ipw2200 stuff -  never could get the kernel stuff
to work, even on simple networks.

bunyip ~ # esearch ipw2200
[ Results for search key : ipw2200 ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  net-wireless/ipw2200
      Latest version available: 1.1.3
      Latest version installed: 1.1.3
      Size of downloaded files: 399 kB
      Homepage:    http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
      Description: Driver for the Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG/2915ABG
miniPCI and 2225BG PCI adapters
      License:     GPL-2

*  net-wireless/ipw2200-firmware
      Latest version available: 3.0
      Latest version installed: 3.0
      Size of downloaded files: 791 kB
      Homepage:    http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
      Description: Firmware for the Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG/2915ABG
miniPCI and 2225BG PCI adapters
      License:     ipw2200-fw

The above works!  It might also be a good idea to bypass as much as
possible of gentoos networking scripts (from experience,
esp /etc/conf.d/net), at least until you get a working setup, then you
can roll the changes back in and test as you go. 

They just do not work well when you have a dozen or more networks using
vpn's, wireless. wired, wep, plain and wpa - mainly I think because of
the way its documented means that while they tell you how to do many
things, they dont tell you how or why, so its too easy to shoot oneself
in the foot.  I suspect they are trying to be all things to every
possible combination, and fail dismally with wireless and laptops!  And
until I found a udev workaround, multiple network cards in a server :(

BillK

On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 19:53 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> I'll throw two chickens in one pot.
> 
> I have recently installed ubuntu on another partition in the mainly
> gentoo gateway laptop I've been running for over a year with great

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[ellotheth rimmwen]

On 8/21/06, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:

> So my questions are how to get WPA to work, with both, and what the
> heck is going on with the firmware?

I'm on the 2.6.17 kernel module, firmware 3.0, and wpa_supplicant
0.5.4. It all worked swimmingly after I enabled the correct ieee80211
encryption mode in the kernel (TKIP--doh!). There's also a wiki
article that might help: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ipw2200.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[Willie Wong]

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:53:52PM +1000, Penguin Lover Alan E. Davis squawked:
> I have recently installed ubuntu on another partition in the mainly
> gentoo gateway laptop I've been running for over a year with great
> success.  I have never had any wireless problems, using the ipw2200
> centrino.  I've not changed kernels for a long while, still running
> 2.5.15 something.  Never a hiccough.

Upgrading your kernel might be a good idea. 

> Then, after installing ubuntu, accessing a few access points, suddenly
> the module for ipw2200 won't install consistently, and I get an error,
> the most recent error was "-1" but there was another number earlier.

I take it that you are trying to install the net-wireless/ipw2200
package? (since it does not come built into the kernel until somewhere
around 2.6.8)

> Well, at school today, confounding all this, the wireless access
> points have now been set up with WPA keys.  Trying WEP keys with
> Ubuntu was unsuccessful, after failling w/ gentoo altogether.  Then
> when trying to run "/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start" again, as I've been
> doing, there is no happiness, and I tracked down this failure to load
> the module.  After a couple of tried, the module did, I think load,
> but because of the WPA setup, I cannot figure out how to access the
> net.  Back to ubuntu, back to gentoo---again module problems.  These
> are firmware problems, failture to load firmware, not the ipw2200
> module, sorry.

Which versions of firmware/ipw2200/kernel are you running here
exactly? 

> Ubuntu too, I cannot figure out how to use the WPA key.

We should tackle one thing at a time. But have you looked at 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Wireless_Configuration_and_Startup

W
-- 
BOOK	...Man had always assumed that he was more 
intelligent than
	dolphins because he had achieved so much... the 
wheel, New York,
	wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever 
done was muck
	about in the water having a good time. But 
conversely the
	dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent 
than man for
	precisely the same reasons.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless WPA and ipw2200 problems

[Canek Peláez]

I'm using the latest kernel, with the ipw2200 driver it provides (not
the one in portage). Evrything works great in WPA, but I don't use the
-Dipw option of wpa_supplicant; I use -Dwext: the tip is in

  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ipw2200

I'm using the suspend2 sources, so I don't have 2.6.17 yet.

Canek

On 8/21/06, Willie Wong <wwong@princeton.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:53:52PM +1000, Penguin Lover Alan E. Davis squawked:
> > I have recently installed ubuntu on another partition in the mainly
> > gentoo gateway laptop I've been running for over a year with great
> > success.  I have never had any wireless problems, using the ipw2200
> > centrino.  I've not changed kernels for a long while, still running
> > 2.5.15 something.  Never a hiccough.
>
> Upgrading your kernel might be a good idea.
>
> > Then, after installing ubuntu, accessing a few access points, suddenly
> > the module for ipw2200 won't install consistently, and I get an error,
> > the most recent error was "-1" but there was another number earlier.
>
> I take it that you are trying to install the net-wireless/ipw2200
> package? (since it does not come built into the kernel until somewhere
> around 2.6.8)
>
> > Well, at school today, confounding all this, the wireless access
> > points have now been set up with WPA keys.  Trying WEP keys with
> > Ubuntu was unsuccessful, after failling w/ gentoo altogether.  Then
> > when trying to run "/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start" again, as I've been
> > doing, there is no happiness, and I tracked down this failure to load
> > the module.  After a couple of tried, the module did, I think load,
> > but because of the WPA setup, I cannot figure out how to access the
> > net.  Back to ubuntu, back to gentoo---again module problems.  These
> > are firmware problems, failture to load firmware, not the ipw2200
> > module, sorry.
>
> Which versions of firmware/ipw2200/kernel are you running here
> exactly?
>
> > Ubuntu too, I cannot figure out how to use the WPA key.
>
> We should tackle one thing at a time. But have you looked at
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Wireless_Configuration_and_Startup
>
> W
> --
> BOOK    ...Man had always assumed that he was more
> intelligent than
>         dolphins because he had achieved so much... the
> wheel, New York,
>         wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever
> done was muck
>         about in the water having a good time. But
> conversely the
>         dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent
> than man for
>         precisely the same reasons.
> Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1 day, 19:57
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> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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