[gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Ian Kabeary]

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The subject kind of says it all, really.
With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start can
take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to speed, but
this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4. There should be no excuse for this. :) Im not
at home right now so I cantt actually attempt any troubleshooting hints you
give me right now, but if you have any general ideas until about 5 hours
from now, please reply!
~Ian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Dale]

Ian Kabeary wrote:
> The subject kind of says it all, really.
> With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start
> can take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to
> speed, but this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4. There should be no excuse
> for this. :) Im not at home right now so I cantt actually attempt any
> troubleshooting hints you give me right now, but if you have any
> general ideas until about 5 hours from now, please reply! 
> ~Ian

AMD 2500+ and 1Gb of ram and I get slow response too.  I notice it the
most when I go to the weather page and view the animated radar.

Dale

:-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Richard Fish]

On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The subject kind of says it all, really.
> With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start can
> take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to speed, but
> this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4.

What jdk/jre did you install?  Have you tried another?

Are the apps attempting to contact something on the internet, and
timing out?  Tcpdump or wireshark may help in this case.

Finally, an "strace -tt java ..." might reveal if there is a system
call that it is waiting on that is taking a while.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Ian Kabeary]

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I will answer all of these when I get home! Thanks for the help.

On 8/15/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
>
> On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The subject kind of says it all, really.
> > With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start can
> > take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to speed,
> but
> > this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4.
>
> What jdk/jre did you install?  Have you tried another?
>
> Are the apps attempting to contact something on the internet, and
> timing out?  Tcpdump or wireshark may help in this case.
>
> Finally, an "strace -tt java ..." might reveal if there is a system
> call that it is waiting on that is taking a while.
>
> -Richard
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>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Lord Sauron]

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On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> The subject kind of says it all, really.
> With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start
> can take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to
> speed,

I had a similar situation a while back.  Go to your java control panel and 
increase the memory to it.  That fixed mine.  I think you'll also notice a 
boost in running speed as well.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Ian Kabeary]

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What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?
Thanks!
~Ian


On 8/15/06, Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The subject kind of says it all, really.
> > With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start
> > can take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to
> > speed,
>
> I had a similar situation a while back.  Go to your java control panel and
> increase the memory to it.  That fixed mine.  I think you'll also notice a
> boost in running speed as well.
>
> HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Lord Sauron]

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On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:44, Ian Kabeary wrote:
> What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?
> Thanks!
> ~Ian

Ah, you're gonna make me boot up my laptop and find out, eh?

No problem.

I should probably try to make a how-to for this on the Gentoo wiki... what do 
you think? Is Java's broken-by-default memory management worth it?

Here we go:

/opt/(JRE/JDK/Whatever)/bin/ControlPanel

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Neil Isaac]

On 8/15/06, Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:44, Ian Kabeary wrote:
> > What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?
> > Thanks!
> > ~Ian
>
> Ah, you're gonna make me boot up my laptop and find out, eh?
>
> No problem.
>
> I should probably try to make a how-to for this on the Gentoo wiki... what do
> you think? Is Java's broken-by-default memory management worth it?

I've never had this problem so I'm not sure it's really
"broken-by-default" - may be jre dependant so the way I see it, you're
best to file bugs as this should not be an existent issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

[Justin Findlay]

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 04:44:14PM -0600, Ian Kabeary wrote:
>    What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?

I've seen it in the gnome menu somewhere under preferences or
administration or something like that (the gnome menu layout tends to
change sometimes).  On my system it's called `ControlPanel`.


Justin
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