From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-46166-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1G0UTt-0007G2-UV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:29:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6C2RgQ2017929; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:27:42 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6C2LTBD003196 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:21:29 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d4so58088nfe for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:21:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=oAKkDYjwGdmX6fuFJMJBZTjFZDpfn33LeYGDhFg4SFf3ky5ClsGrNAjKL8zjbQXvuPLxDXnuSCISef+FI1XiGWGaiC80KQ8m0Q162dSXdFoGXhiioPqEY+ygFPnhISITbXThCU2Ahw3JT1k3YccfUlTMNva9PKIpiBvNs+Qcqeo= Received: by 10.78.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr84543hue; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.20.11 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7573e9640607111921u172ab25dx67cc7ba34ca7118d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:21:29 -0700 From: "Richard Fish" <bigfish@asmallpond.org> Sender: richard.j.fish@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved In-Reply-To: <200607112012.04226.gentoo.org@machturtle.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44AEB475.8000702@maestroprogramador.com> <200607112012.04226.gentoo.org@machturtle.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a9d94d75eb8c005b X-Archives-Salt: 4008fb35-8d01-4fe8-beaf-35de43614f40 X-Archives-Hash: e6ca16bb9195af5c3bfd2420d09486dd On 7/11/06, David Corbin <gentoo.org@machturtle.com> wrote: > I'd like to see an option where certain packages are not upgrade just because > they're out of date, but require an additional command line argument. > Additionally, a tool that I could run that tells me "the following packages > are being 'held back' because a more involved upgrade" - ideally, it would > also provide information on what the required steps are. > > I'm I crazy? I don't think so. Your comments are very much in line with mine...trying to make the more involved upgrades less error prone. The one concern I have with taking this out of the standard update process is that we really need to keep up with the currently 'stable' software as a minimum. Updating some things that are "simple", but letting other packages fall behind, is just asking for breakage at some point. Some recent postings to -dev regarding current software not building with old gcc versions really point out this fact... So I don't think we need yet another tool here. I would prefer to see our existing tools enhanced with this goal in mind. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list