[gentoo-user] making sense of emerge --sync

[gentoo-user] making sense of emerge --sync

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,

Following emerge --sync I was informed a new update
was available and directed to a file 

/usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006

which contains the following:

move net-wireless/madwifi-tools
net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools
move net-wireless/madwifi-driver
net-wireless/madwifi-ng
move games-simulation/bcsdemo
games-simulation/bcs-demo
move media-libs/alut media-libs/freealut
move games-strategy/dominions2-demo-bin
games-strategy/dominions2-demo
move dev-libs/pam_pkcs11 sys-auth/pam_pkcs11
move app-cdr/kio_burn app-cdr/konqburn
slotmove =media-libs/libdc1394-1* 0 1
slotmove =media-libs/libdc1394-2* 0 2
move dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs dev-embedded/sdcc-svn
move app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools
app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools
move dev-lisp/mit-scheme dev-scheme/mit-scheme
move dev-lisp/mzscheme dev-scheme/mzscheme
move dev-lisp/guile-pg dev-scheme/guile-pg
move dev-lisp/kawa dev-scheme/kawa
move www-apps/nut sys-power/nut
move media-tv/v4l-dvb-cvs media-tv/v4l-dvb-hg
move sys-apps/pmtools sys-power/pmtools
move app-crypt/gpg-agent app-crypt/gnupg
move app-mobilephone/obexfs sys-fs/obexfs
move app-i18n/scim-chinese app-i18n/scim-pinyin
move games-fps/avp-cvs games-fps/avp
move net-libs/nfsidmap net-libs/libnfsidmap
move net-misc/resolvconf-gentoo
net-dns/resolvconf-gentoo
move x11-misc/matchbox-nest x11-misc/xoo
move games-puzzle/pouetchess games-board/pouetchess
move app-i18n/jless-iso254 app-i18n/jless
move app-text/ghostscript-afpl
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
move sci-misc/camfr sci-physics/camfr
move sci-misc/lightspeed sci-physics/lightspeed
move sci-misc/mpb sci-physics/mpb
move sci-misc/xfoil sci-physics/xfoil
move sci-chemistry/abinit sci-physics/abinit
move sci-libs/root sci-physics/root

And this is what emerge -pvu portage says:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.17 [1.2.12] 227
kB 
[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/libperl-5.8.8-r1 [5.8.7]
-berkdb +debug +gdbm -ithreads 9,886 kB 
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r2 [5.8.7-r3]
-berkdb -build +debug -doc +gdbm -ithreads -perlsuid 0
kB 
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7j [0.9.7i]
-bindist -emacs -test +zlib 3,213 kB 
[ebuild  N    ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.56  -minimal
63 kB 
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.04 [1.01] 5
kB 
[ebuild  N    ] perl-core/PodParser-1.32  -minimal 91
kB 
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.5-r2 [5.4-r6]
-bootstrap -build +debug* -doc +gpm -minimal -nocxx
-unicode 2,259 kB 
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/python-2.4.3-r1 [2.4.2] +X
-berkdb* -bootstrap -build -doc +gdbm +ipv6 +ncurses
-nocxx +readline +ssl -tcltk -ucs2 7,827 kB 
[ebuild     U ] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.13 [0.1.11-r1]
-caps 52 kB 
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r5  -bindist
-gmp -test 150 kB 
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1-r1 [2.0.54-r1]
-build -doc (-elibc_FreeBSD) +elibc_glibc
-elibc_uclibc -linguas_pl (-selinux) -userland_Darwin
+userland_GNU 282 kB 

Total size of downloads: 24,059 kB

Now I'm too confused to even know what to ask about
it:(  Are those "moves" above another word for
"update"? Is 2Q-2006 supposed to have anything to do
with emerge -u portage? It doesn't look like it. But
then what is it for?

-Maxim

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Re: [gentoo-user] making sense of emerge --sync

[Richard Fish]

On 7/5/06, maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006
>
> which contains the following:
>
> move net-wireless/madwifi-tools
> net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools
> move net-wireless/madwifi-driver
> net-wireless/madwifi-ng

These are instructions to portage to move things around for installed
packages.  For example, if someone had net-wireless/madwifi-tools
installed, well that is now "net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools" in
portage.  So portage needs to update the installed package database in
/var/pkg/db to reflect the new name, so the user continues to receive
updates for it.

See 5.f at:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=5#doc_chap6

> "update"? Is 2Q-2006 supposed to have anything to do
> with emerge -u portage? It doesn't look like it. But
> then what is it for?

What you really should have seen was a message that said "Applying
2Q-2006 updates" or some such.  Not a "go look at this file" message.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] making sense of emerge --sync

[maxim wexler]

--- Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

> On 7/5/06, maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006
> >
> > which contains the following:
> >
> > move net-wireless/madwifi-tools
> > net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools
> > move net-wireless/madwifi-driver
> > net-wireless/madwifi-ng
> 
> These are instructions to portage to move things
> around for installed
> packages.  For example, if someone had
> net-wireless/madwifi-tools
> installed, well that is now
> "net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools" in
> portage.  So portage needs to update the installed
> package database in
> /var/pkg/db to reflect the new name, so the user
> continues to receive
> updates for it.
> 
> See 5.f at:
>
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=5#doc_chap6
> 
> > "update"? Is 2Q-2006 supposed to have anything to
> do
> > with emerge -u portage? It doesn't look like it.
> But
> > then what is it for?
> 
> What you really should have seen was a message that
> said "Applying
> 2Q-2006 updates" or some such.  Not a "go look at
> this file" message.
> 
> -Richard

Thanks Richard, good link. I didn't mean to imply that
I was advised to read that file. I mentioned it
because I didn't recognize it from the last time I
sync'ed portage.

But your reply leads to other questions: IIRC portage
didn't say "applying updates", it just mentioned the
file at the end of the sync. Don't I have to run
update to actually "apply" the updates? And, how do I
prevent some updates and allow others. 

I have bandwidth issues;(

-Maxim

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Re: [gentoo-user] making sense of emerge --sync

[Richard Fish]

On 7/6/06, maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> But your reply leads to other questions: IIRC portage
> didn't say "applying updates", it just mentioned the
> file at the end of the sync. Don't I have to run
> update to actually "apply" the updates?

No, portage will do this "update" automatically when necessary.

> And, how do I prevent some updates and allow others.

Hrm, you *don't* want to do this in this case.  Again, these are
things that have moved around in the portage tree, and if you have
them installed, you *want* portage to apply the same changes to the
package database.  Otherwise you will never see updates for packages
that move after you have installed them.

> I have bandwidth issues;(

This has nothing to do with bandwidth, or automatically updating the
packages themselves.  It is only moving stuff around in /var/db/pkg to
keep it in sync with the portage tree.  Emerge --update still works
exactly like it did, just with the new package names.

-Richard
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