From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FyDTA-0003Hc-0E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:55:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k65Jr2XJ029216; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 19:53:02 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k65Jl4JV024833 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 19:47:04 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so30207nfb for ; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:47:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=uq0YTmlCZ5fMHdaEszm7rdkNngghcR+l5+8ylC4x7RjXWkyhdboKPMVxcd5urWVWhsSBCAUNpi9cpF8WHE+QY6PYoaU5of8/L+C45PlwT2Mx8p+qgvc4ecFBCEcLIDVCu6T08fEj1WoZiOfWxUr0c/pzi38Hr808snRFT0FWKHY= Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr2502994huf; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.20.11 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7573e9640607051247g17dd5d6w7ee62b5c48cf54ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:47:04 -0700 From: "Richard Fish" Sender: richard.j.fish@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] world favorites: pros and cons In-Reply-To: <44AC0C0D.3080900@ilievnet.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44AB8AEF.70104@ilievnet.com> <44AB91EC.9070701@mid.message-center.info> <20060705115509.2905ae6d@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <44AB9E70.6010205@ilievnet.com> <20060705131400.3ae53735@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <44ABB409.4080003@ilievnet.com> <7573e9640607050938t31b5b0edmf9a2a672ed017ba0@mail.gmail.com> <44ABF275.3040107@ilievnet.com> <7573e9640607051115r1fd2f82ew9e6aab857a3eddd9@mail.gmail.com> <44AC0C0D.3080900@ilievnet.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04774c3330453d6c X-Archives-Salt: 8ac9f8e9-30c2-4a8b-bfa0-d09e51a7003f X-Archives-Hash: 4d906224c6917370cbabd63f1e7c6308 On 7/5/06, Daniel Iliev wrote: > Then what is the purpose of: > "emerge --update world" w/o "--deep"? To update only the packages in world, without updating dependancies. As I think I mentioned, some people do not like using --deep, because they don't necessarily want to update all libraries to the latest available version for fear of introducing instability/bugs into their systems. So they *may* want to update to the latest firefox, but that doesn't mean they want the latest gtk+ libraries as well. Presumably they also monitor the GLSA channels to make sure they don't miss important security updates... > Well, this means that one has to manually handle things as well as in > the way I deal with packages, right? ;-) Well, yes, but only for the few things that you really care about, not the entire system. And why --depclean should always be run with --pretend first. > Compared to it, the router checks for updates about 2 times faster. > I can't be precise, but if you insist I could do a "time emerge -pvuDN > world" on both of them and send the results. Ok, but that is for two completely different systems with different sets of packages installed. It doesn't tell us whether the time is a function of the total number of packages that are installed, or the number of things listed in world. The question is, if your athlon didn't have any dependancies in world, would the update check run faster or slower? I don't _actually_ care about the answer, I'm just pointing out that comparing the performance of systems with different sets of packages installed isn't a good way to test how the performance of portage relates to the size of the world file. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list