From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-173717-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7497D138330 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ECEBE0BF0; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uberouter3.guranga.net (newyork.josephkaneit.com [107.170.110.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7838E0BC7 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by uberouter3.guranga.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id 4E258E61E0; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:06:16 -0400 (EDT) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Small computing =?UTF-8?Q?recommendations=3F?= X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcmail.php Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 16:06:16 +0100 From: thegeezer@thegeezer.net In-Reply-To: <f70505f8-2b65-463f-fc58-c8a60d63e211@gmail.com> References: <96c43a3e-82b0-dfa7-96f1-b6d545450c8a@gentoo.org> <f70505f8-2b65-463f-fc58-c8a60d63e211@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7337682897fb08262f5e6f6f597cd255@thegeezer.net> X-Sender: thegeezer@thegeezer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.5 X-Archives-Salt: 55404933-52ee-4d2e-b354-469c1df7a38c X-Archives-Hash: ff25748ebd868571d08de082ea1ae402 On 2016-10-12 13:16, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 12/10/2016 13:56, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> My birthday's coming up in 10 days and my SO and others are wanting to >> know what to get me for my birthday. I'm slowly growing tired of >> trying >> to keep my desktop Gentoo machine lightweight and "clean", so it'd be >> fun to hack on a little computer that I could possibly DIY a case or >> other arrangement for. Maybe a file/web server, or a "freetoo" machine >> where I can experiment with being rigidly FSF-APPROVED or other fun >> shenanigans. >> >> I've looked around at the Raspberry Pi 3, the Pocket CHIP (I also have >> PICO-8 and am hacking something for it), the Pi Zero, and have heard >> about the Beaglebone and Arduino, though isn't the latter meant for >> more >> interactive or robotic thing due to the large array of IO pins? >> >> If I had the right tools or gadgets, creating my own UMPC would be >> really fun. >> >> At a minimum, I would prefer HDMI instead of composite or VGA, though >> it >> could be headless and I just use SSH or an Adafruit LCD. >> >> Any opinions or use cases and stories would be much appreciated. I >> would >> prefer running Gentoo on it, but Debian, Mint, or Slackware would be >> tolerable. >> > > > Those devices are dirt cheap, ask for one of each :-) Seconded :) here are my 2c on my two experiences Raspberry Pi great to play with Gentoo ARM, runs well until you do anything related to IO. Really well in fact, so that when you do do anything to save a file or emerge (yes you can but i really wouldn't recommend it) it takes you by surprise how bad it is. Also be aware of USB power draw and reboots if you can't supply power well enough for all devices! is more of a "computer" in the traditional sense. Arduino I really like the Arduino from a programmatic automation point of view as the inputs and single threaded C program make sense to me, and in my own simple way of viewing things, things like nest.com are more easy to do via Arduino than Pi. is more of a microcontroller than a computer Final thoughts get them all, they are so cheap. the addons are what make them though -- wifi shields or movement sensors etc, otherwise they are just a piece of compute. you may find a Pi controller controlling arduino leads you to a new form of robotics and the limits are your imagination but if you are looking for a linux box to play with i would suggest Intel Atom based Jetway mini-atx with the daughterboards that let you have multi-nic or multi-sata they are fast enough to keep up to date without needed distcc and feature rich enough that you can build your own SAN or build your own router etc