From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqBkG-0001Sm-3p for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:23:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j66FLdZZ028235; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:21:39 GMT Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j66FHYX9014443 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:17:34 GMT Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DqBfN-000O92-Oa for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:18:26 -0600 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <200507061449.10665.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> References: <49bf44f10507051238e316b9c@mail.gmail.com> <200507060653.28162.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <8CCBAA50-4219-4F88-88A3-1740918C367A@shire.net> <200507061449.10665.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7177732E-E6C0-4273-92EA-425A703A833D@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:18:25 -0600 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) X-Archives-Salt: 5eba2ca7-2274-47e3-bd15-dcbe243bf7fc X-Archives-Hash: e0a19cd7fdec990e72b700ceb539245b On Jul 6, 2005, at 6:49 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 07:11, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > >> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:53 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 06 July 2005 03:29, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >>> >>>>> I would not trust a wifi setup by a unknown 3rd party to do online >>>>> banking. >>>>> >>>>> The security of the average wifi is pretty low. Because of >>>>> lazyness, stupidity >>>>> or bugs. >>>>> >>>> >>>> However, any good bank will have SSL for the higher level >>>> protocols, >>>> and the wifi should be as secure as public wired connections (ie >>>> DSL >>>> etc). (which is to say, not secure). If you trust your cable >>>> modem >>>> or DSL to do SSL-enabled online banking, you should be ok with the >>>> wifi >>>> >>> >>> hm, you want to tell me, that it is as easy to get into the >>> computer room, >>> >> >> No need to get into the computer room. Plenty of cables leading out >> of the computer room. I could tap any of my neighbors cable lines or >> phone lines without them knowing and without going into their house. >> >> Once you get outside the computer room you are on the unprotected >> internet, whether you are on wifi or DSL or cable or modem to get >> there. >> >> > > ok, but where I live, you have to dig, to get to the cables.. and > then you > still do not know, which cable to hack out of the bundle. > While with a wifi, all you need is a good antenna. Nope, no digging. Phone lines terminate in handy little boxes on the side of the houses. Cable modem lines have little termination pedestals on the street and single cable going into the building Chad > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list