From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-91311-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1LawKv-0003aj-CK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:12:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2AAFE0202; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.241]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96C9E0202 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1419090rvb.46 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:12:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9WRsTnxZm16enimPMeUkt4/fkFudFe8VPXrpZrtAJBU=; b=MPTQLEB72lgLejHwY1wNDFdHNaKLtzfgeltgOyEHklRnee4pXIchIbVXwHhgysV+nT NmlPJH7whNE95t31Dxtg3V9ZQ6gu6bVy+QC8nEZYbtngmhMPj3FO9Acdlt31kef8EymR 3mahuBxPii62ErdoccjaSAegwiRHyrfZF98Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Br6sdeHCJPd/XXWO4KbIBF13+ysdgWJwR0VQmOYijRvsAjDkK0jzAs6Vok+sUJDc3o xI05REhY57GE24ERjsYbcYqOGx08swg+TsdrYOjtBLtSBCS7GVXYc47bnvpJBFaFj7iD xfvzG9RZQADLd+RetgkzgFaXncYvJhMbo3rnE= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.108.2 with SMTP id g2mr1049680wfc.259.1235239942351; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:12:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:12:22 +0800 Message-ID: <6e2210230902211012jaa83252l6a5b1040a840c4e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installer and Handbook (Was: Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?) From: Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 43cc5097-a9f7-44ac-a0db-9e4d251fd842 X-Archives-Hash: 41020fff2723989ce62e6ddb5f1dc179 On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Sebastian G=FCnther <samson@guenther-roetgen.de> wrote: > * Nikos Chantziaras (realnc@arcor.de) [05.02.09 09:12]: >> >> Than I'll rephrase my statement: Gentoo would need a non-bugged GUI >> installer ;) >> > No, Gentoo needs no GUI or CLI installer. It is very good, that if you > install Gentoo for the first time, you must actually read the > documentation, because it introduces you in the whole managing Gentoo > stuff. What is important in the Handbook are not the commandline > examples, but the surrunding text. A student of the path heard about Ubuntu, and wanted to try it, and learn about it. He asked his friend, a Linux guru, about it. "Where can I find an installer of Ubuntu?", he asked. Rummaging about his stuff, his friend replied: "Here, I have an extra Ubuntu CD for you.". After thanking his friend, he got about his business and went to install Ubuntu on a spare machine. After a while, he wanted to install other applications on his Ubuntu machine, but he didn't know how to do it. He quickly called up his friend and asked about it. "Where can I find the official documentation for Ubuntu?", he asked. "Read the documentation and manuals at these links," said his friend, who pointed at the site containing the offiicial documentation. After thanking his friend, he got about his business and learned a bit about his Ubuntu machine. Several months later, at the Ubuntu forums, he notices several users mentioning Gentoo over and over again. He quickly decides to give this Gentoo a try, and asks his friend where to get an installer. "Read the documentation and manuals at these links," said his friend, who pointed at the site containing the official documentation. This answer confused the student, and after skimming the pages for a while, he notices that the documentation is too huge for him to read in a single sitting. He then asks his friend if he has a copy of the documentation for reference when he gets home. Rummaging about his stuff, his friend replied: "Here, I have an extra Gentoo CD for you." The student was even more confused. "Why is it that when I asked you for an installer, you pointed me to the documentation, but when I asked you for the documentation, you gave me a CD? Why didn't you give me a CD installer the first time around?" To which the guru replied: "If you just want a CD installer, then you can have this.", and he gave the student another Ubuntu CD. At this point the student was enlightened.