[gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[Dan Cowsill]

I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it.
After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install
Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc.  Keep in
mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature.
Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system.

Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach.
I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel.  I
tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install
chrooted and sure enough, same deal.

Does anyone know what could cause this?  Or perhaps, what I should
look for to solve this problem?

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it.
> After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install
> Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc.  Keep in
> mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature.
> Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system.
>
> Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach.
> I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel.  I
> tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install
> chrooted and sure enough, same deal.
>
> Does anyone know what could cause this?  Or perhaps, what I should
> look for to solve this problem?
>

Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once.

Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about
setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was
the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and
OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees,
instead of its full 2.6GHz.

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Daniel da Veiga
Computer Operator - RS - Brazil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[Don Jerman]

If it's brand-new, have you ever installed Linux on this particular
processor/motherboard combination?  I had a problem with freezeups
with my TurionX2 laptop until I used -noapic on the kernel line.
Nothing much to do with load, except that more work = more chance of
encountering the problem.

I also had heat-related issues until I got the thermal sensors coupled
with the speed governor.  But then the machine would just turn off
abruptly. I was able to get it to run long enough to recompile by
putting a pencil up under the corner where the vents are, for more
clearance and airflow.

More details about the system might help you get better answers.

On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it.
> After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install
> Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc.  Keep in
> mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature.
> Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system.
>
> Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach.
> I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel.  I
> tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install
> chrooted and sure enough, same deal.
>
> Does anyone know what could cause this?  Or perhaps, what I should
> look for to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[Dan Cowsill]

Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating.
I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it
until I can get a working system.  Then I'll investigate cpu frequency
scaling.

Thanks for your advice.

On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it.
> > After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install
> > Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc.  Keep in
> > mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature.
> > Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system.
> >
> > Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach.
> > I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel.  I
> > tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install
> > chrooted and sure enough, same deal.
> >
> > Does anyone know what could cause this?  Or perhaps, what I should
> > look for to solve this problem?
> >
>
> Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once.
>
> Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about
> setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was
> the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and
> OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees,
> instead of its full 2.6GHz.
>
> --
> Daniel da Veiga
> Computer Operator - RS - Brazil
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> Version: 3.1
> GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V-
> PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[Dan Cowsill]

Yes, it's a new Acer, with a Amd64 Turion mobile mk-38.  I had thought
initially that the cpu was to blame for the freezups as indeed I have
never installed on this particular processor.

So far, so good with the freezing, though.  I propped the machine up,
and all seems to be going smoothly...

Does anyone know of any special considerations I should take with the processor?

Thanks.


On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating.
> I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it
> until I can get a working system.  Then I'll investigate cpu frequency
> scaling.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it.
> > > After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install
> > > Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc.  Keep in
> > > mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature.
> > > Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system.
> > >
> > > Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach.
> > > I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel.  I
> > > tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install
> > > chrooted and sure enough, same deal.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what could cause this?  Or perhaps, what I should
> > > look for to solve this problem?
> > >
> >
> > Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once.
> >
> > Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about
> > setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was
> > the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and
> > OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees,
> > instead of its full 2.6GHz.
> >
> > --
> > Daniel da Veiga
> > Computer Operator - RS - Brazil
> > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> > Version: 3.1
> > GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V-
> > PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++
> > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile

[Don Jerman]

It appears there are still apic issues under x86_64 SMP, so look at
noapic if you continue to have hangups (you may have this AND heat
problems).

Also look at the AMD_64 architecture forums at gentoo.org.  I'm not
familiar with the Acer peripherals but that forum helped me with my
HP9000z.

On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it's a new Acer, with a Amd64 Turion mobile mk-38.  I had thought
> initially that the cpu was to blame for the freezups as indeed I have
> never installed on this particular processor.
>
> So far, so good with the freezing, though.  I propped the machine up,
> and all seems to be going smoothly...
>
> Does anyone know of any special considerations I should take with the processor?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating.
> > I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it
> > until I can get a working system.  Then I'll investigate cpu frequency
> > scaling.
> >
> > Thanks for your advice.
> >
> > On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it.
> > > > After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install
> > > > Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc.  Keep in
> > > > mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature.
> > > > Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system.
> > > >
> > > > Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach.
> > > > I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel.  I
> > > > tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install
> > > > chrooted and sure enough, same deal.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know what could cause this?  Or perhaps, what I should
> > > > look for to solve this problem?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once.
> > >
> > > Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about
> > > setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was
> > > the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and
> > > OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees,
> > > instead of its full 2.6GHz.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel da Veiga
> > > Computer Operator - RS - Brazil
> > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> > > Version: 3.1
> > > GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V-
> > > PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++
> > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> > > --
> > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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