From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EmQ2V-0001El-PS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:23:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBE6Khg6021698; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:20:43 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBE6EmRL004107 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:14:49 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z31so35491nzd for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sA8K8tyKBnYD6sKl6YwNivkbFtwD+KNryAFE0d+5OoGGzucwvOS6ONAdHqBTZDdqAU8AyT9S7stn0PF82x/FcadFkXVGQegHBUzQ3ISpjVcb7POHyojdNGOBU7CCo64BfUtsx4TtHJxt9SK7OmcAlmF7Dfmz/4VgKg0tNs89/ww= Received: by 10.65.133.2 with SMTP id k2mr143396qbn; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.51.11 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6c846ff60512132214v5b9818b1g7d9e04674be398d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:47 -0800 From: Steven Susbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde? In-Reply-To: <200512140307.jBE37qRJ013177@robin.gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44014_25868170.1134540887688" References: <342e1090512091746g221fb5b7o4d878de8f74bb791@mail.gmail.com> <200512140307.jBE37qRJ013177@robin.gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 21369c39-7bf0-47d7-b01b-003d02809734 X-Archives-Hash: c35e706f2b8792b1b46e6bceb2b22e97 ------=_Part_44014_25868170.1134540887688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I forget where, but I did see some site at some time that had most of portage compiled in x86 binaries... On 12/13/05, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > He should have been here when I installed Gentoo on a > > 200Mhz machine. > > > > He should have watched me compiling Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of > > other packages on my Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM, what other distro > > could turn that machine on a useful server other than Gentoo. Keep the > > Yeah yeah yeah... Great ol' glory days... Guess what... It's not the 80's > anymore. > CPUs are fast, but the programs are still monolithic and take days to > compile. > > I fully agree (and have brought this up before months and years ago) -- I > believe we should have binaries available for the big packages like KDE, > OO, > Gnome, etc. Ya'll that like to waste your time compiling can keep on doin= g > that, while the rest of us would like to get some work done. > > The thing that's frustrating me right now, is that I just installed KDE > 3.5 > the other day, then upgraded to the new GCC. After a revdep, it apparentl= y > has broken all my libc something or other and so I'm once again > re-compiling > KDE to fix that! ...joy, only 176 packages to go... :-\ > > And for you all that want to say -- "switch Distros", your logic is > flawed. > Just because I don't want to waste 3 days or more compiling KDE on a > 2Ghz/640MB notebook, doesn't mean I don't want the other benefits of > Gentoo, > like "emerge -u world" and the fact that when I do need to install from > source (like something that isn't in portage), it usually just compiles > fine. RedHat 8 NEVER worked that way for me. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- ------------------------ Steven Susbauer ------=_Part_44014_25868170.1134540887688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I forget where, but I did see some site at some time that had most of porta= ge compiled in x86 binaries...

On 1= 2/13/05, Daevid Vincent < daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
> > He should have been here when I installed G= entoo on a
> 200Mhz machine.
>
> He should have watched me compilin= g Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of
> other packages on my Pentium 100 = with 48MB of RAM, what other distro
> could turn that machine on a us= eful server other than Gentoo. Keep the

Yeah yeah yeah... Great ol' glory days... Guess what... It's not th= e 80's
anymore.
CPUs are fast, but the programs are still monolithic = and take days to
compile.

I fully agree (and have brought this up= before months and years ago) -- I
believe we should have binaries available for the big packages like KDE= , OO,
Gnome, etc. Ya'll that like to waste your time compiling can keep = on doing
that, while the rest of us would like to get some work done.

The thing that's frustrating me right now, is that I just installed= KDE 3.5
the other day, then upgraded to the new GCC. After a revdep, it= apparently
has broken all my libc something or other and so I'm once ag= ain re-compiling
KDE to fix that! ...joy, only 176 packages to go... :-\

And for = you all that want to say -- "switch Distros", your logic is flawe= d.
Just because I don't want to waste 3 days or more compiling KDE on a
2Ghz/640MB notebook, doesn't mean I don't want the other benefits of Ge= ntoo,
like "emerge -u world" and the fact that when I do need = to install from
source (like something that isn't in portage), it usuall= y just compiles
fine. RedHat 8 NEVER worked that way for me.

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