[gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Jakub Łukomski]

hi, i recently upgraded xorg-x11 to 7.0-r1. after the upgrade everything 
works fine, except one thing.

1600x1200 resolution stopped working (it worked fine in 6.8).

i've got an onboard intel video card, based on 915G chipset.

the only part of Xorg.0.log that seems relevant is:
(II) I810(0): miro: Using default hsync range of 30.00-86.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): miro: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-160.00 Hz
(II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1920x1440" (width too large for 
virtual size)
(1600x1200,miro) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 150MHz
(II) I810(0): Increasing the scanline pitch to allow tiling mode (1600 
-> 2048).
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 2048)
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1280x1024"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1024x768"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "800x600"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "640x480"

i get more of the "mode clock exceeds DDC maximum" messages.

i could send a full Xorg.log and xorg.conf if needed.

thank you for any help
	regards
		Jakub Łukomski

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[William Kenworthy]

You might have some luck using this:

*  sys-apps/855resolution [ Masked ]
      Latest version available: 0.4
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 6 kB
      Homepage:    http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apoirier
      Description: Utility to patch VBIOS of Intel 855 / 865 / 915
chipsets.
      License:     public-domain as-is


I think there is also a 915 resolution at
www.geocities.com/stomljen/download.html

Unfortunately they didnt help me as I have a laptop with a built in LCD
of 768 pixels (v), and try as I might I cant overide it even when I am
using it on an external monitor/projector with a much higher, but still
valid resolution for the chipset :(  Windows seems to be able to do
it ... but not modular X.  (I did it using the old xfree on a different
laptop - so I think it might be an modular xorg driver limitation)


BillK


On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 11:37 +0200, Jakub Łukomski wrote:
> hi, i recently upgraded xorg-x11 to 7.0-r1. after the upgrade everything 
> works fine, except one thing.
> 
> 1600x1200 resolution stopped working (it worked fine in 6.8).

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Jakub Łukomski]

William Kenworthy wrote:
> You might have some luck using this:
> *  sys-apps/855resolution [ Masked ]
> 
> I think there is also a 915 resolution at
> www.geocities.com/stomljen/download.html

thanks for help, but unfortunately those are not of much use to me, 
because 1600x1200 mode IS present in the bios. it just won't run :(

-Qba

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Richard Fish]

On 7/20/06, Jakub Łukomski <qba@blackmoondev.com> wrote:
> i could send a full Xorg.log and xorg.conf if needed.

Yes please.  At the very least, the Monitor, Screen, and Device
sections of your xorg.conf.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Richard Fish]

On 7/20/06, Jakub Łukomski <qba@blackmoondev.com> wrote:
> Section "Monitor"
>         Identifier              "miro"
>         VendorName              "miro"
>         ModelName               "P17F86i"
>         HorizSync               30-86
>         VertRefresh             50-160
>         Option                  "dpms"
> EndSection

> (II) I810(0): Using detected DDC timings
> (II) I810(0):   HorizSync 30-86
> (II) I810(0):   VertRefresh 50-160
> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 28-33kHz not within DDC hsync
> range 30-86kHz
> (WW) I810(0): config file vrefresh range 43-72Hz not within DDC vrefresh
> range 50-160Hz

Something isn't right here.  Why does X think your config file has the
(default) 28-33khz and 43-72Hz ranges?

Can you post your ServerLayout section?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Jakub Łukomski]

Richard Fish wrote:
> Something isn't right here.  Why does X think your config file has the
> (default) 28-33khz and 43-72Hz ranges?
> 
> Can you post your ServerLayout section?
of course. here it is:

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier		"XFree86 Configured"
	Screen			"Screen0"
	InputDevice		"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice		"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

everything seems to be fine to me... (unless i'm not aware of something)
(also i didn't notice this 28-33kHz/43-72Hz problem before...)

-Qba



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Dimitar Toshev]

On Thursday 20 July 2006 23:19, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 7/20/06, Jakub Łukomski <qba@blackmoondev.com> wrote:
> > Section "Monitor"
> >         Identifier              "miro"
> >         VendorName              "miro"
> >         ModelName               "P17F86i"
> >         HorizSync               30-86
> >         VertRefresh             50-160
> >         Option                  "dpms"
> > EndSection
> >
> > (II) I810(0): Using detected DDC timings
> > (II) I810(0):   HorizSync 30-86
> > (II) I810(0):   VertRefresh 50-160
> > (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 28-33kHz not within DDC hsync
> > range 30-86kHz
> > (WW) I810(0): config file vrefresh range 43-72Hz not within DDC vrefresh
> > range 50-160Hz
>
> Something isn't right here.  Why does X think your config file has the
> (default) 28-33khz and 43-72Hz ranges?
>
> Can you post your ServerLayout section?
>
> -Richard

Also, see if you have an xorg.conf in /root/ or anywhere other than /etc/X11. 
>From the xorg.conf manpage:

>When the Xorg server is started by the "root" user, the config file search 
locations are as follows:
>           <cmdline>
>           /etc/X11/<cmdline>
>           /usr/etc/X11/<cmdline>
>           $XORGCONFIG
>           /etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG
>           /usr/etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG
>           $HOME/xorg.conf
>           /etc/X11/xorg.conf-4
>           /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>           /etc/xorg.conf
>           /usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf.<hostname>
>           /usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf-4
>           /usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
>           /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.<hostname>
>           /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf-4
>           /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf

This means, that another xorg.conf might be used, instead of the one 
in /etc/X11.

If you have only one xorg.conf, and it is in /etc/X11, see if you are using 
the correct monitor in your Screen section.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Jakub Łukomski]

Dimitar Toshev wrote:
> Also, see if you have an xorg.conf in /root/ or anywhere other than /etc/X11. 
no, that's not the case, as changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf actually did 
have influence on behaviour of xorg. thanks for the idea, though. i was 
not aware of this.

However the problem is temporarily with Option "DDC" "Off" as was 
suggested in a different post.

-Qba

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Walter Willis]

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On 7/24/06, Jakub Łukomski <qba@blackmoondev.com> wrote:
>
> Dimitar Toshev wrote:
> > Also, see if you have an xorg.conf in /root/ or anywhere other than
> /etc/X11.
> no, that's not the case, as changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf actually did
> have influence on behaviour of xorg. thanks for the idea, though. i was
> not aware of this.
>
> However the problem is temporarily with Option "DDC" "Off" as was
> suggested in a different post.
>
> -Qba
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Roy Wright]

Jakub Łukomski wrote:
> hi, i recently upgraded xorg-x11 to 7.0-r1. after the upgrade 
> everything works fine, except one thing.
>
> 1600x1200 resolution stopped working (it worked fine in 6.8).
>
I had a similar problem. I run dual 21" monitors both at home and the 
office (I physically move
the system unit but not the monitors). The office monitors (Nokia 
445XiPlus) would not accept
the 1600x1200 resolution. I noticed in their spec that they also support 
1600x1280. So added
1600x1280 to the Device section, MetaModes option. And they worked. So 
at home I now
have 3200x1200, and the office runs at 3200x1280 automatically.

HTH,
Roy


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7, i810, and no 1600x1200

[Jakub Łukomski]

Richard Fish wrote:
> Yeah, it all looks normal.  Try the Option "DDC" "Off" thing, and lets
> see if that improves things.
This actually did help.
I was not aware that such option exists. i tried Option "NoDDC" "true" 
and that just messed everything up (and i could use 640x480 only).

Option "DDC" "Off" actually works, so thanks a lot for help. I'm aware 
this is not a real solution just to ignore what DDC says, but it works 
and it's what's the most important ;)

-Qba

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