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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <9Usm88eqy3D9JHfxc7jLZUr6gPAgf24jqbaUj6WlOAZapyYJnGgcYqsTIQr0i4oGOwgFda1zUPs_vWQLax658WrRt627ytwvXqV5npEBwSw=@protonmail.com> <20200604231409.732a64f7@digimed.co.uk> <20200604224250.y7xq66qok54svn4t@ad-gentoo-main> From: Dale Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: <68b980d2-1c0d-759b-f734-e69ff6be235a@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:56:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200604224250.y7xq66qok54svn4t@ad-gentoo-main> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------73B42E536FAD24A85448E7D0" X-Archives-Salt: 4ea3a784-3360-4230-b86c-355c230d8514 X-Archives-Hash: cc45cc107d81c40bb2ea297c0049e768 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------73B42E536FAD24A85448E7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ashley Dixon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 05:31:29PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> Allow portage to add the changes to your config, then run etc-update or >>> equivalent. When portage adds package.use changes, it also adds comments >>> showing what requires those changes. With that information, you should be >>> able to see which package is causing this. >> One of us is reading that wrong.  Given my eyes, maybe it is me.  My new >> glasses should be in within the next week or so.  In the first instance, >> it wants py2.7 disabled.  So he adds it to the config file to disable >> it.  When he runs the command again, it wants to enable py2.7 for the >> same package and version.  If I'm reading that right, even if he lets >> emerge add the change, it will lead to two problems.  One, there will be >> one line enabling py2.7 and another line disabling it.  If I recall >> correctly, emerge will take the last one.  Two, he will be back to the >> first problem, it wanting py2.7 disabled.  In other words, back where he >> started.  >> >> Am I reading that wrong or something??  > Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with a text editor, > that's just manually doing the work of etc-update. We need the `emerge --info > docutils` output to see full information about his Python environment. > True but it asks for one thing, then when it is done, it asks for it to be undone.  I agree something is off somewhere but I'm not sure using etc-update is going to matter.  I do my edits manually as well and rarely use etc-update and friends.  Whether done manually or with the tool, the result is the same.  The comments it will add to those files are listed in the outputs above.  I don't think that is going to shed any new light on the problem either. Seeing the output of emerge --info for that package may shed some light on the problem but allowing etc-update to change the config isn't going to help.  It's in one of its circular problems that comes from something else.  Maybe we will get more info shortly.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------73B42E536FAD24A85448E7D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ashley Dixon wrote:
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 05:31:29PM -0500, Dale wrote:

Neil Bothwick wrote:

Allow portage to add the changes to your config, then run etc-update or
equivalent. When portage adds package.use changes, it also adds comments
showing what requires those changes. With that information, you should be
able to see which package is causing this.

One of us is reading that wrong.  Given my eyes, maybe it is me.  My new
glasses should be in within the next week or so.  In the first instance,
it wants py2.7 disabled.  So he adds it to the config file to disable
it.  When he runs the command again, it wants to enable py2.7 for the
same package and version.  If I'm reading that right, even if he lets
emerge add the change, it will lead to two problems.  One, there will be
one line enabling py2.7 and another line disabling it.  If I recall
correctly, emerge will take the last one.  Two, he will be back to the
first problem, it wanting py2.7 disabled.  In other words, back where he
started. 

Am I reading that wrong or something?? 

Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with  a  text  editor,
that's just manually doing the work of etc-update.  We need the  `emerge  --info
docutils` output to see full information about his Python environment.

True but it asks for one thing, then when it is done, it asks for it to be undone.  I agree something is off somewhere but I'm not sure using etc-update is going to matter.  I do my edits manually as well and rarely use etc-update and friends.  Whether done manually or with the tool, the result is the same.  The comments it will add to those files are listed in the outputs above.  I don't think that is going to shed any new light on the problem either.

Seeing the output of emerge --info for that package may shed some light on the problem but allowing etc-update to change the config isn't going to help.  It's in one of its circular problems that comes from something else. 

Maybe we will get more info shortly. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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