[gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[James Wall]

Hi all,

I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
programs would you recommend to handle this task?

TIA James Wall

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Hung Dang]

James Wall wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>
> TIA James Wall
>
>   
You can try k3b

Hung

[gentoo-user] Re: backup program recommendations?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Hung Dang wrote:
> James Wall wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
>> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
>> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>>
>> TIA James Wall
>>
>>   
> You can try k3b

Well, that's not a backup app.  But anyway, I don't use a "backup app" 
either.  I just tar.lzma the whole thing and burn it :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: backup program recommendations?

[Hung Dang]

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Hung Dang wrote:
>> James Wall wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW 
>>> drive
>>> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
>>> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>>>
>>> TIA James Wall
>>>
>>>   
>> You can try k3b
>
> Well, that's not a backup app.  But anyway, I don't use a "backup app" 
> either.  I just tar.lzma the whole thing and burn it :P
>
>
My bad :( I thought it is the program to write to DVD.
I am not sure what you want. In my case, I combine a bash script to 
compress, rsync ... with cron to do the back up weekly. It seem to be 
quite convenient.

If you have big files using rar is faster and save more space than tar.

Hung

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: backup program recommendations?

[comrade b14ck]

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If you want to make backups, don't do it on a cdrom. Try rsync, it's a great
backup tool. Here's a guide to dip your feet in:
http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Hung Dang <hungptit@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>> Hung Dang wrote:
>>
>>> James Wall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
>>>> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
>>>> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>>>>
>>>> TIA James Wall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You can try k3b
>>>
>>
>> Well, that's not a backup app.  But anyway, I don't use a "backup app"
>> either.  I just tar.lzma the whole thing and burn it :P
>>
>>
>>  My bad :( I thought it is the program to write to DVD.
> I am not sure what you want. In my case, I combine a bash script to
> compress, rsync ... with cron to do the back up weekly. It seem to be quite
> convenient.
>
> If you have big files using rar is faster and save more space than tar.
>
> Hung
>
>
>

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[gentoo-user] Re: backup program recommendations?

[James]

James Wall <wallservices <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
> 
> TIA James Wall



/usr/portage/app-backup

lists many packages.

Amanda is my favorite, but, it might be a bit much for a small installation.


hth,

James

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Dale]

James Wall wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>
> TIA James Wall
>
>
>   

I use Kbackup and then k3b to burn them.  Works well so far.  Just
depends on what you want and whether you have a GUI or not.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Robin Atwood]

On Friday 06 Mar 2009, James Wall wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
> programs would you recommend to handle this task?

DAR - http://dar.linux.free.fr/. There is also a gui, kdar.

HTH
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[James Wall]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> On Friday 06 Mar 2009, James Wall wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
> > to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
> > programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>
> DAR - http://dar.linux.free.fr/. There is also a gui, kdar.
>
> HTH
> -Robin
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Robin Atwood.
>
> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>  Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>         from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I will check them out

James Wall

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Dale]

James Wall wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:
>   
>> On Friday 06 Mar 2009, James Wall wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
>>> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
>>> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>>>       
>> DAR - http://dar.linux.free.fr/. There is also a gui, kdar.
>>
>> HTH
>> -Robin
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Robin Atwood.
>>
>> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>>  Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>>         from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I will check them out
>
> James Wall
>
>
>   


I seem to recall that Kdar or dar had a bug that lead to it being
masked.  This was a while back so it may be fixed now but it may be
worth checking into to make sure.  Nothing worse than thinking you have
backups when they are worthless.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Robin Atwood]

On Saturday 07 Mar 2009, Dale wrote:

> I seem to recall that Kdar or dar had a bug that lead to it being
> masked.  This was a while back so it may be fixed now but it may be
> worth checking into to make sure.  Nothing worse than thinking you have
> backups when they are worthless.

Kdar became incompatible with later versions of libdarapi but then it was 
fixed and now works well again. Dar is extremely fast compared to tar, 
especially when restoring. It is probably best to use scripts to perform 
nightly backups (lots of examples on the web site) and the GUI for those 
times when you want to restore those couple of files you just munged. :)
Dar also has options for running an external utility at the end of each 
backup 'slice', so writing the archive to DVD would be an option.

HTH
-Robin
-- 
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Robin Atwood.

"Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
 Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
         from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
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Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Dale]

Robin Atwood wrote:
> On Saturday 07 Mar 2009, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> I seem to recall that Kdar or dar had a bug that lead to it being
>> masked.  This was a while back so it may be fixed now but it may be
>> worth checking into to make sure.  Nothing worse than thinking you have
>> backups when they are worthless.
>>     
>
> Kdar became incompatible with later versions of libdarapi but then it was 
> fixed and now works well again. Dar is extremely fast compared to tar, 
> especially when restoring. It is probably best to use scripts to perform 
> nightly backups (lots of examples on the web site) and the GUI for those 
> times when you want to restore those couple of files you just munged. :)
> Dar also has options for running an external utility at the end of each 
> backup 'slice', so writing the archive to DVD would be an option.
>
> HTH
> -Robin
>   


That's good to know.  I was hoping it was fixed but did notice it was
masked still so I wasn't sure as to why.

May have to test it again now myself.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[James Wall]

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robin Atwood wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 Mar 2009, Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I seem to recall that Kdar or dar had a bug that lead to it being
>>> masked.  This was a while back so it may be fixed now but it may be
>>> worth checking into to make sure.  Nothing worse than thinking you have
>>> backups when they are worthless.
>>>
>>
>> Kdar became incompatible with later versions of libdarapi but then it was
>> fixed and now works well again. Dar is extremely fast compared to tar,
>> especially when restoring. It is probably best to use scripts to perform
>> nightly backups (lots of examples on the web site) and the GUI for those
>> times when you want to restore those couple of files you just munged. :)
>> Dar also has options for running an external utility at the end of each
>> backup 'slice', so writing the archive to DVD would be an option.
>>
>> HTH
>> -Robin
>>
>
>
> That's good to know.  I was hoping it was fixed but did notice it was
> masked still so I wasn't sure as to why.
>
> May have to test it again now myself.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>

Kdar looks to be what I needed. I will post reports after doing a full
out backup/restore test tomorrow

James Wall

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Geralt]

Hi,

I'm using Clonezilla for my system backups, it's very easy to use and
restoring the backups actually works (that's normally the tricky part,
not copying everything to another medium) :-)
If it's just for data, I'm making a daily backup on a flash disk using
rsync and from time to time a backup on an external hdd drive using
again rsync. If you tar it up, you can't store the differences only
anymore, so you have to decide first what you want.

Oh and if you're using a ram-dvd you can access the dvd as if it were
a flash medium and just rsync/tar/... to it :-)




Geralt.

Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:39:01 +0100, Geralt wrote:

> If it's just for data, I'm making a daily backup on a flash disk using
> rsync and from time to time a backup on an external hdd drive using
> again rsync. If you tar it up, you can't store the differences only
> anymore, so you have to decide first what you want.

You can store differences within files, but tar is quite capable of
making incremental backups.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Celery is not food. It is a member of the plywood family.

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Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use Kbackup and then k3b to burn them.  Works well so far.  Just
>

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Robin Atwood
<robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:
> DAR - http://dar.linux.free.fr/. There is also a gui, kdar.
>

Are there GUIs not depending on KDE?




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Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[Robin Atwood]

On Friday 13 Mar 2009, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I use Kbackup and then k3b to burn them.  Works well so far.  Just
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Robin Atwood
>
> <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:
> > DAR - http://dar.linux.free.fr/. There is also a gui, kdar.
>
> Are there GUIs not depending on KDE?

Yes, there is darGUI. Checkout freshmeat.net.

-Robin
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"Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
 Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
         from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
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Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?

[fei huang]

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A shell script is all you want.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:55 AM, James Wall <wallservices@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive
> to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What
> programs would you recommend to handle this task?
>
> TIA James Wall
>
>

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