From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IdVld-0006xc-2x for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:49:49 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l94Id520002167; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:39:05 GMT Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l94IXhLt028134 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:33:44 GMT Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so636491pyb for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:33:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0du+bweJp5pcGReAYj9bnLuNpE5Sj1jqGSsupEL/c+s=; b=CtMCM6D8pkCFwU5pGpkvX3h2+/lk4E1JASxokJcYqT/APkRLRT4hVHCG+vQjE6lMIPUCw3J5qLNL1dVuKq1Efq/IlODgMhekBjExZVa3oIFz1onwU2PFN9CNTDL6b7dKe1D1i99LugUEs2j1oSzzVl3l2ckUXM5ettunFL5eJ/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WqyxlOf4cRp54Rc5kbFf9prZtLveZk/5WGzPi5mPDlHJ2MznnNfI1r8E0FAWQubjL/AgrLYEaPG0bq7uyWl9gJ4VzODs36uXAVunLIqEjSthW/ipMfq+y3mwvo0r46J1jhQ7iit0abTtYiUO0t4d9/eYOX0ghmaXxssG5n/uOwI= Received: by 10.65.74.9 with SMTP id b9mr14563807qbl.1191522820391; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.215.19 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <68b1e2610710041133q2908483cu7877a6b197460922@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:33:40 +0200 From: "Liviu Andronic" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions? In-Reply-To: <200710041857.51348.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <68b1e2610710032342j1b47ff5g8f868d8fcc0179ef@mail.gmail.com> <200710041547.53084.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> <20071004163457.2bf0ad43.hilse@web.de> <200710041857.51348.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> X-Archives-Salt: a6919632-7155-4f79-8c79-f799d36f55b9 X-Archives-Hash: 9528b20f3900ed9ec0f3139b2b30eccf On 10/4/07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 04 October 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: >> [..] > > However, it makes sense to clean up memory after having > > critical data in it -- e.g. a reboot doesn't necessarily clean up > > RAM. >> [..] > > Yes, this is very true BUT On 10/4/07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Pray tell, how does RAM manage to retain data when the power is off? ...and... On 10/4/07, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > In practice, after power is cut, everything in ram is lost. So, my eternal question, is it realistic for the "lost" RAM data to be recovered? That is, after system shutdown, does the data still physically reside on the RAM and can someone with a decent technology and know-how recover it? In other words, is this a serious breach in any encrypted system? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list