From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C241391DB for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12A53E0B98; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lyseo.edu.ouka.fi (unknown [82.128.138.2]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86BBE0B63 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.184.79.68] (85-76-146-196-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.146.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lyseo.edu.ouka.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 96E06193F980 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:57:47 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie References: <53075C77.5040505@libertytrek.org> <530767B0.6000607@libertytrek.org> <20140320211402.48a597f9@gentoo.org> <532B5CBE.8010105@libertytrek.org> <20140321121328.23425250@gentoo.org> <20140321122709.4219538d@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20140321134902.6eaba663@gentoo.org> <20140321142948.59ce3f62@gentoo.org> <20140321215707.GA16478@waltdnes.org> <532CBE8F.7080506@gmail.com> <20140322004640.7d57eff6@gentoo.org> <532D674D.1020007@gmail.com> From: Matti Nykyri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <532D674D.1020007@gmail.com> Message-Id: <67F46EB2-2C55-414E-9BA1-806E04592268@iki.fi> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:57:40 +0200 To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Archives-Salt: 4abc02d2-f46a-491e-991e-b8a07d321be0 X-Archives-Hash: 857c8dd3fea037307e3f7f90019c64af On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 22/03/2014 01:46, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:34:55 +0200 >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>=20 >>> 2. A discussion forum. For these you do munge Reply-To: to be the list >>> so all discussion happens on-list and is visible to all >>>=20 >>> gentoo-user has always been the latter and all discussion always takes >>> place on-list. If some doc somewhere says otherwise, change the doc to >>> reflect reality. >>=20 >> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml mentions it is about support >> too, and people that are here to be supported don't necessarily want to >> follow the discussion that comes along as well; thus unsubscribe >> before an answer or not subscribe at all in the first place, they then >> instead rely on receiving a mail regardless of that. >>=20 >> CC-ing ensures that the minutes spent on the answer make it reach the >> person; relying on that they are (still) subscribed, I can waste time. >>=20 >> See the most recent mail I sent before this for details. >>=20 >=20 >=20 > I disagree. >=20 > Your default position on things seems to be to favour the theoretical > position over the reality. I'm the opposite, being a sysadmin and not a > developer I'm a realist and not a theoretician. I work with the way > things are and really only look at the theory when stuff is proven broken.= >=20 > What is currently happening is you are sending mails directly addressed > to me so they do not get filtered and end up cluttering my already full > inbox. You are breaking my filters. >=20 > I do not want to receive list mail from you addressed directly to me, I > want it addressed to the list. >=20 > I do want you to fix your mailer so that you stop inconveniencing me. > And I would *really* prefer not to have to tweak my filters to > accommodate you. I'd rather you do that heavy lifting (on account of you > causing it). >=20 > Do you see what I'm getting at? I agree. I think it is arrogant to disturb lots of people that have done not= hing to deserve it. People should be let to choose them self what they wanna= do with their lives. If they wish to disengage some conversation, let them.= Don't send them spam. The ones who wish to participate will stay on the lis= t and the ones seeking for an answer can browse the archives. Please respect other people. --=20 -Matti=20=