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From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:07:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6723c49f-424e-8d77-2001-1415a50309d4@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200423084546.GD16612@legohost>

On 4/23/20 4:45 AM, lego12239@yandex.ru wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 03:24:07PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> FWIW, I do know there are situations where static linking is the right
>> thing to do.
> 
> If you project require strong security, than it would be simpler to use static linking.
> If you have many instances of the same program or have many shortlived processes of the
> same program, than static linking is better(for ram and speed).
> 
> Michael, just read about history of shared object. That was not technical decision,
> that was marketing decision.
> 

I might believe you about speed, but not about RAM. Memory usage goes up
with static linking because you've got multiple copies of the same thing
loaded into memory. And that makes the performance argument tricky as
well: you're saving a bit of CPU time on function calls, but maybe your
cache is also filled up with those same copies of the same stuff, and as
a result things actually get slower as you hit the disk to load the 22nd
copy of a library.

Ignoring that, the faster load time and speed improvements were minor to
begin with. It's not worth making your system annoying to manage. If you
think I'm wrong, feel free to shoot yourself in the foot, but you
shouldn't be calling Alessandro or the QA team incompetent (that's my
bit...) unless you have some strong new evidence that static linking
improves things in a general-purpose linux distro.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-21 16:58 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Consus
2020-04-21 17:11 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-22 12:28   ` Alessandro Barbieri
2020-04-21 18:10 ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-21 18:33   ` Consus
2020-04-21 18:41     ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-21 18:48       ` Consus
2020-04-21 18:51     ` Ralph Seichter
2020-04-21 19:00       ` Consus
2020-04-22  0:09         ` Dale
2020-04-22  0:26           ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-22  1:49             ` Dale
2020-04-22  2:22               ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-22  2:55                 ` Dale
2020-04-22  7:41                   ` John Covici
2020-04-22  8:15                     ` Dale
2020-04-22 12:15                       ` John Covici
2020-04-22 12:53                         ` Dale
2020-04-22 13:51                           ` John Covici
2020-04-22 15:04                             ` Dale
2020-04-22 15:20                               ` John Covici
2020-04-22 15:26                                 ` Jack
2020-04-22 15:58                                   ` John Covici
2020-04-22 16:03                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 17:14                                       ` Dale
2020-04-22 17:19                                       ` John Covici
2020-04-22 17:30                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23  0:15                                           ` John Covici
2020-04-23  1:57                                             ` Dale
2020-04-22  7:42                   ` Philip Webb
2020-04-23 19:55               ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-24  1:22                 ` Dale
2020-04-21 19:10     ` Neil Bothwick
2020-04-22  8:06       ` Consus
2020-04-23 19:46     ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-21 18:47 ` Peter Humphrey
2020-04-21 19:01   ` Consus
2020-04-21 20:27     ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-21 20:51       ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes? Michael Jones
2020-04-21 22:01         ` Gregory Rudolph
2020-04-21 22:36           ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22  9:46             ` Peter Humphrey
2020-04-22 10:17               ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-22 11:20                 ` Neil Bothwick
2020-04-24 22:22                   ` jdm
2020-04-26 15:25                     ` Viktar Patotski
2020-04-22 14:35               ` Michael Jones
     [not found]                 ` <20200423152135.77bb9a0c.lembark@wrkhors.com>
2020-04-23 20:57                   ` Michael Jones
2020-04-21 23:05         ` Consus
2020-04-23 20:18         ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-22 15:22     ` [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 15:35       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:07         ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 16:13           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:14           ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 16:16             ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:31               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 16:32                 ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 16:48                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 17:03                     ` Michael Jones
2020-04-24 12:35                   ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 12:45                     ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-24 16:07                       ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 17:54                     ` Michele Alzetta
2020-04-24 17:56                       ` Michele Alzetta
2020-04-24 18:16                         ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 16:17             ` Alessandro Barbieri
2020-04-22 16:24               ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 16:28                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:31                   ` Michael Jones
2020-05-07  1:13                   ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  1:43                     ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-07  2:14                       ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  2:35                         ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-07  3:31                           ` Dale
2020-05-07  3:50                             ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  7:49                               ` Michael
2020-05-07  8:26                             ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Neil Bothwick
2020-05-07 15:11                               ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:41                                 ` Michael
2020-05-07 18:13                                   ` Dale
2020-05-07  4:26                           ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 16:26               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 17:48                 ` Alessandro Barbieri
2020-04-22 18:08                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 18:19                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 18:24                       ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 18:33                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 19:15                           ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 19:19                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 19:22                               ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 19:24                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23  8:45                                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-24 21:07                                     ` Michael Orlitzky [this message]
2020-04-24 22:30                                       ` lego12239
2020-04-23  8:31                                 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-23  8:52                               ` lego12239
2020-04-23  8:59                                 ` Consus
2020-04-23  9:17                                   ` lego12239
2020-04-23  9:02                                 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " Dale
2020-04-23  9:26                                   ` lego12239
2020-04-23  9:44                                     ` Dale
2020-04-23 10:34                                       ` lego12239
2020-04-23 10:55                                         ` Dale
2020-04-24 20:48                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23 15:20                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-23 15:37                                       ` lego12239
2020-04-23  8:27                           ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 18:24                       ` Consus
2020-04-22 18:38                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 18:51                           ` Consus
2020-04-23  8:24                       ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 16:26               ` Jorge Almeida
2020-04-23 20:27             ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-24  9:22               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-24 13:34                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " Grant Edwards
2020-04-24 18:05                   ` [gentoo-user] " lego12239
2020-04-24 18:46                     ` Grant Edwards
2020-04-24 21:19                       ` lego12239
2020-04-24 16:30                 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] " inasprecali
2020-04-24 17:37                   ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 17:46                     ` Robert Bridge
2020-04-24 18:08                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-24 17:23                     ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-25 16:37               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-25 18:28                 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-27 11:31             ` Kent Fredric
2020-04-27 15:57               ` lego12239
2020-04-28 15:33                 ` Kent Fredric
2020-04-28 16:56                   ` lego12239
2020-04-22 17:29         ` Dale
2020-04-22 17:34           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 17:52             ` Dale
2020-04-23 18:14             ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-23 18:26               ` Michael Jones
2020-04-23 21:03               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2020-04-23 23:55                 ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 21:23               ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-26 14:23                 ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-26 15:05                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23 20:10     ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-23 20:12       ` Consus
2020-04-22  8:58 ` Alexandru N. Barloiu
2020-04-22 14:29 ` Kent Fredric
2020-04-22 16:24 ` james
2020-04-25 18:04   ` Fernando Reyes
2020-04-25 18:30     ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  3:14 ` Pengcheng Xu
2020-05-07  3:39   ` Dale
2020-05-07  3:55     ` Pengcheng Xu
2020-05-07  5:23     ` Gerrit Kuehn
2020-05-07 14:21     ` hitachi303
2020-05-07 15:15       ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:19         ` Petr Vaněk
2020-05-07 15:23           ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:29             ` Petr Vaněk
2020-05-07 15:36               ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:04     ` james

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