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From: Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:13:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66848C57-9BED-46E7-BF50-C5574E252BAC@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707171819.07811.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>


On 17 Jul 2007, at 17:19, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
>
>> I believe that even Linus - who is noted for his long-standing
>> opposition to v3 - would change his mind were he to experience this.
>> "They're using the operating system _I_ wrote to lock me out of _my
>> own_ router?!?!?!?"
>
> Linus has said it several times that he was ok with the thing Tivo  
> did.
>
> And Tivo is the reason for that clause in GPLv3.

I've seen no evidence that he said this AFTER spending a big chunk of  
his own money on hardware, plugging it into his ethernet network and  
finding himself frustrated by an inability to copy shows recorded in  
his living room to the Tivo in his den.

A problem with having well-paid and financially successful "leaders"  
is the risk of them becoming out of touch with "the common man".  
Linux is Linus' baby and he's entitled to license his code however he  
wishes but he can afford a nice sports car now and I doubt that he  
has to pay for much hardware.

I'm not saying that Linus is wrong, just that he might see things  
differently if the license he used on his software caused him time,  
inconvenience, frustration and expense. Say what you like about the  
lunatic fringe, but RMS has never forgotten that laser printer which  
he was unable to fix because the code was denied him.

Stroller.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-18 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-17 10:14 [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? burlingk
2007-07-17 10:42 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-17 11:01 ` Graham Murray
2007-07-17 12:48   ` Stroller
2007-07-17 16:19     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 13:13       ` Stroller [this message]
2007-07-18 17:40         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 18:10           ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 22:34           ` Stroller
2007-07-18 23:48             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-19  0:41               ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19  2:10                 ` Stroller
2007-07-19  1:58               ` Stroller
2007-07-17 17:14 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 19:29   ` Mike Edenfield
2007-07-17 22:05     ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2007-07-18  2:23       ` Mike Edenfield
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 14:37 [gentoo-user] " burlingk
2007-07-19  6:13 burlingk
2007-07-19  5:59 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19  5:54 burlingk
2007-07-18 11:07 burlingk
2007-07-18 12:29 ` Dan Cowsill
2007-07-18  4:26 burlingk
2007-07-18  4:18 burlingk
2007-07-17 17:57 burlingk
2007-07-18 13:51 ` Stroller
2007-07-17 17:38 burlingk
2007-07-17 17:27 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 12:38   ` Alan McKinnon
2007-07-18 14:13     ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:15     ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 13:48 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:33   ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 12:12 burlingk
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-16  0:52 burlingk
2007-07-16 12:15 ` Mark Shields
2007-07-16 21:53   ` Jerry McBride
2007-07-17  1:26     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17  1:59       ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17  1:26   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17  2:08     ` Henk Boom
2007-07-13 22:11 Jerry McBride
2007-07-13 22:27 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-18  9:28 ` b.n.
2007-07-18 16:23   ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

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