From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30EBA1382C5 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79D28E0934; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hosts.co.uk (smtp.hosts.co.uk [85.233.160.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3177EE08C4 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from host86-149-69-253.range86-149.btcentralplus.com ([86.149.69.253] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by smtp.hosts.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1kqvYZ-000A8n-DW for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:03:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: From: antlists Message-ID: <6579330e-c7b2-29f6-9e02-a8cea7fffa49@youngman.org.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:03:14 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 25ba1997-f309-4fe9-9cb1-61eb8ddec4d8 X-Archives-Hash: 8683b332a7564373cc97b6f96362fee3 On 20/12/2020 01:06, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Looking at 4 TB WD drives as an example, the cheapest > SAS drive started at 145 €, but a WD RED NAS drive (intended for > uninterrupted operation) at 93 €. BEWARE OF WD REDS !!! They *U*S*E*D* to have a good reputation. They are STILL marketed as NAS/RAID drives but are pretty much guaranteed to dump your raid into an unrecoverable mess once something goes wrong. They've recently been moved over to shingle technology. Which means delays in response time of maybe TEN minutes if you overload them and they have to start a garbage collect. If you don't want shingled drives, you need a Red Pro, Seagate Ironwolf, or a Toshiba I think it's N300. If you don't care about conventional/shingled, get something cheaper - a Blue, or Barracuda, or whatever. Cheers, Wol